Member dMG Posted March 21, 2010 Member Share Posted March 21, 2010 Hi guys.. Can anyone confirm that there are english subs on the Scimitar and the Sony dvd releases? Is there any difference in print quality on them? I have the UK Eastern Heroe's dvd and it is in anamorphic ws ~1.85:1, but english dub only. Also can anyone confirm that JoySales canned a supposed dvd release of this? (I've seen screenshots that clearly had dvd quality on another forum). Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member chen lung Posted March 21, 2010 Member Share Posted March 21, 2010 See OFDB's entry. Was intended to be Mandarin, but released in 1980 in Cantonese I believe. I think English dubtitles are on Columbia's release. Nothing at all on Simitar's (which I'm sure renders that release useless, other than the interview which is on all DVDs of the JC range). The film hasn't received an English re-translation either. There's a trailer - possibly from the Eastern Heroes DVD. The Japanese DVD is uncut (Digitally Remastered Fortune Star range), but has no English options and Cantonese remixes only. There's a trailer on it, but I wonder what language. Contrary to Splendid's 'Digitally Remastered' claim (which it isn't anyway), their JC range is infact sourced from Fortune Star's Non-Digitally Remastered range (PAL digi-beta). They do always have genuine mono that's likely to be in better condition than the Digitally Remastered range (ironically). There is a Joy Sales VCD containing both Cantonese and Mandarin soundtracks (with new Chinese subtitles only). What we can hope for it they release a DVD containing both (like the VCD) Cantonese and Mandarin soundtracks in mono, but a welcome bonus would be re-translated subtitles (even the English dub!) - sadly not permitted in their Digitally Remastered contract (adding to the risk of downmixes). I used to have the UK VHS released in the mid-90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member dMG Posted March 22, 2010 Author Member Share Posted March 22, 2010 Thanks for the info. Hope that FS release will come out on the R3 market with added english subs.... Not in the mood to pay 30+ euros + shipping from Japan for a used copy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member chen lung Posted March 24, 2010 Member Share Posted March 24, 2010 Thanks for the info. Hope that FS release will come out on the R3 market with added english subs.... Not in the mood to pay 30+ euros + shipping from Japan for a used copy Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Buxbaum Posted March 25, 2010 Member Share Posted March 25, 2010 The Splendid has only German Subs and is not anamorphic. Hope they will release a HK DVD soon with Cantonese mono audio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Gaijin84 Posted February 25, 2011 Member Share Posted February 25, 2011 Has there been an update to this since last year? I'm looking for the best possible release that is widescreen and has English subtitles. Doesn't have to be remastered. Never sure what info to trust out there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member tdb Posted February 25, 2011 Member Share Posted February 25, 2011 Buyoyo has a dvd of Loaf from Winners Video Entertainment Ltd. Audio: Cantonese, Mandarin Subs: Chinese (Traditional), English Aspect ratio is not listed. I'm guessing letterbox or fullscreen. Worth a shot I suppose. If you keep your expectations suitably low, you might be content with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member chen lung Posted February 25, 2011 Member Share Posted February 25, 2011 Buyoyo has a dvd of Loaf from Winners Video Entertainment Ltd. Audio: Cantonese, Mandarin Subs: Chinese (Traditional), English Aspect ratio is not listed. I'm guessing letterbox or fullscreen. Worth a shot I suppose. If you keep your expectations suitably low, you might be content with it. Their DVDs are pretty much garbage (I have 'Spiritual Kung Fu' and 'Shaolin Wooden Men') - the VCDs would be better quality. A custom edition would be the better option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Richie Freebird Posted March 1, 2011 Member Share Posted March 1, 2011 I bought a vhs tape of this from a second hand record store as a kid and loved it at the time. I still have it somewhere, haven’t watched it in years though. It was a dubbed version. Sorry this post isn’t much help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Gaijin84 Posted July 25, 2011 Member Share Posted July 25, 2011 Just wondering if there has been any update here. About to pull the trigger on the Japanese version. Which one is the better option? or Both claim to be widescreen and remastered: Ver 1 - Ver 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Asmo Posted July 26, 2011 Moderator Share Posted July 26, 2011 Should be the same. The second one is a priced down reissue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member David Rees Posted July 26, 2011 Member Share Posted July 26, 2011 They are the same as mentioned above. Shame HK Legends never got around to releasing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Gaijin84 Posted July 26, 2011 Member Share Posted July 26, 2011 thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member luckystars Posted July 26, 2011 Member Share Posted July 26, 2011 Ocean Shores VCD has Canto/Mandarin + English subs, and is fullscreen but watchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Cognoscente Posted May 23, 2021 Member Share Posted May 23, 2021 The below Japanese page details the chronicles of the film's production in a way that makes Jeff Yang look bad. https://kungfutube.info/6003 While it is true that it took a long time to be released in Hong Kong, it would appear that the release was put on hold due to lack of funds, and extra footage was filmed to cash in on the success of SITES. The telling indication is that there is at least one scene in the film where Jackie has a bruise under his right eye which is similar to what he had in Drunken Master and Dragon Fist, as noted below. https://kungfutube.info/5189#dra-face Also, while the official story is that it premiered in 1980, a Korean newspaper confirmed that the movie was already released in South Korea on November 11, 1978. If Lo Wei really hated the movie, he would have destroyed the footage. Anyway, the movie was then released in Taiwan on January 1979. Seriously, that Japanese webmaster is the Kung Fu movie equivalent to Abraham Zapruder. Interestingly, HALOKF was scheduled to begin filming on July 20, 1977 - the fourth anniversary of Bruce Lee's death. Also, it was filmed right before SITES instead of Jeff Yang's timeline of HALOKF, Magnificent Bodyguards, Spiritual Kung Fu, Dragon Fist and the Seasonal duo. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member starschwar Posted May 23, 2021 Member Share Posted May 23, 2021 Interesting stuff. Google Translate isn't cooperating with me for that site. According to that source, what is the actual chronology of Jackie's early films? Moreover, what is the latest point on which there is disagreement? I'd like to think that Young Master and forward is not contested, but I've been out of the loop for a long time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Cognoscente Posted May 23, 2021 Member Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, starschwar said: Interesting stuff. Google Translate isn't cooperating with me for that site. According to that source, what is the actual chronology of Jackie's early films? Moreover, what is the latest point on which there is disagreement? I'd like to think that Young Master and forward is not contested, but I've been out of the loop for a long time. Filming dates... New Fist of Fury: March - April 1976 Shaolin Wooden Men: June - July 1976 The Killer Meteors: Sep '76 - Jan '77 Snake & Crane Arts of Shaolin: Nov '76 - Jul '77 To Kill with Intrigue: Dec '76 - Mar '77 Magnificent Bodyguards: Jul 5 - 20 '77 Half a Loaf of Kung Fu: Aug '77 - Apr '78 Snake in the Eagle's Shadow: Nov '77 - Jan '78 Spiritual Kung Fu: Apr '78 - Jun '78 Drunken Master: Apr '78 - Sep '78 Dragon Fist: Jul '78 - Aug '78 Fearless Hyena: Oct' 78 - Dec '78 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member starschwar Posted May 23, 2021 Member Share Posted May 23, 2021 Fascinating, if true. I can certainly believe Magnificent Bodyguards' fast turnaround. 3D is expensive, and time is money! What about the new footage for Fearless Hyena 2, and its relation to the filming of Young Master? At any rate, it looks like we have four ways of looking at things, assuming this information is indeed correct. 1. This Japanese source (is there a name or alias associated with this individual?), by start of filming, as listed in your post, Cognoscente. 2. The Japanese source, by end of filming: Quote 1976: New Fist of Fury Shaolin Wooden Men 1977: The Killer Meteors To Kill with Intrigue Snake and Crane Arts of Shaolin / Magnificent Bodyguards 1978: Snake in the Eagle's Shadow Half a Loaf of Kung Fu Spiritual Kung Fu Drunken Master Dragon Fist Fearless Hyena 3. The "I am Jackie Chan" chronology (which I have not questioned as gospel until today, I suppose): Quote 1976: New Fist of Fury Shaolin Wooden Men 1977: The Killer Meteors To Kill with Intrigue 1978: Snake and Crane Arts of Shaolin Half a Loaf of Kung Fu Magnificent Bodyguards Spiritual Kung Fu Dragon Fist Snake in the Eagle's Shadow Drunken Master Fearless Hyena 4. Release Date order - is there a definitive list? Is HKMDB considered accurate? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Cognoscente Posted May 23, 2021 Member Share Posted May 23, 2021 The person hasn't revealed their name. HKMDB is accurate but only for HK release dates. The Young Master and Fearless Hyena II began filming in late April '79 (TYM on April 23 and FH II on April 24). On April 26, Jackie suddenly went to Australia. After that, Wang Yu called Jackie every day to get him to return. On May 13, Jackie returned to shoot FH II. After a while, he gave up on FH II so as to focus on TYM. https://kungfutube.info/6001 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Killer Meteor Posted May 24, 2021 Member Share Posted May 24, 2021 Killer Meteors' release date on HKMDB is August 1976, which predates those shooting dates. Do you have a more accurate release date? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Killer Meteor Posted May 24, 2021 Member Share Posted May 24, 2021 21 hours ago, Cognoscente said: Filming dates... New Fist of Fury: March - April 1976 Shaolin Wooden Men: June - July 1976 The Killer Meteors: Sep '76 - Jan '77 Snake & Crane Arts of Shaolin: Nov '76 - Jul '77 To Kill with Intrigue: Dec '76 - Mar '77 Magnificent Bodyguards: Jul 5 - 20 '77 Half a Loaf of Kung Fu: Aug '77 - Apr '78 Snake in the Eagle's Shadow: Nov '77 - Jan '78 Spiritual Kung Fu: Apr '78 - Jun '78 Drunken Master: Apr '78 - Sep '78 Dragon Fist: Jul '78 - Aug '78 Fearless Hyena: Oct' 78 - Dec '78 thanks! This confirms my theory that Spiritual Kung Fu was made in reaction to Snake in the Eagle's Shadow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Cognoscente Posted May 24, 2021 Member Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Killer Meteor said: Killer Meteors' release date on HKMDB is August 1976, which predates those shooting dates. Do you have a more accurate release date? All I have is the Japanese site: https://kungfutube.info/5091 The only other alternative to HKMDB that I can find is this: http://www.boxofficecn.com/hkboxoffice1976 (#7: a movie called "Meteor Butterfly Sword" screened from March to April) Back to the Kung Fu Tuber (since they have no other displayed name), the person translated Chinese newspapers as part of his research. He divides his research into two categories - the long story and the long story made short. Here is his summary... September 07, 1976: Wang Yu and Nora Miao will star in Sword Flower Smoke Gangnam (i.e. To Kill with Intrigue) Mid-September 1976: Started shooting Wind and Rain Meteor Sword and Sword Flower Smoke Gangnam in Taiwan? September 27, 1976: Lo Wei departs for location scouting in South Korea. October 30, 1976: Lo Wei injured while shooting Killer Meteors. Suspended for 6 days. November 11, 1976: Chenglong, shooting Wind and Rain Meteors in Taiwan. December 12, 1976: Started shooting Kenka Smoke Gangnam. Mid-January 1977: Lo Wei and Jackie Chan depart for location in South Korea. Release dates... May 12, 1977 (Korea) December 31, 1976 (Taiwan) August 21, 1976 - Mistake It seems that it has not been released in Hong Kong. Edited May 24, 2021 by Cognoscente 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Killer Meteor Posted May 24, 2021 Member Share Posted May 24, 2021 thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Killer Meteor Posted May 24, 2021 Member Share Posted May 24, 2021 I see the 1980 box office chart has Young Master down at no. 69 with just over a million taken. Was it really so low? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Cognoscente Posted May 24, 2021 Member Share Posted May 24, 2021 That can't be right. I remember the UK VHS (the "Hong Kong Classics" release*) for the HK version of Dragon Lord containing a 1982 trailer that began with a peculiar introduction which implied that Dragon Lord would be the latest record breaker to come from Golden Harvest. First we see a poster of The Young Master with the year 1980 under it, and a record-breaking 11 million. Then we see a poster of Security Unlimited with the year 1981 under it, and a record-breaking 17 million. Perhaps the one million listing of The Young Master was the opening weekend total. * This specific version... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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