Member slazenger_7 Posted July 8, 2010 Member Share Posted July 8, 2010 Favorite martial arts movie in which Meng Fei appeared: Five Shaolin Masters Favorite Meng Fei pairing: The Shaolin Kingboxer [iron Fist] -- with Chen Kuan Tai The Ways of Kung Fu -- with Chi Kuan Chun Favorite Meng Fei performances: The Prodigal Boxer Five Shaolin Masters The King Boxer [Hands of Death] Favorite Meng Fei fight scenes: Meng Fei vs. Liang Chia Jen [Leung Kar Yan] End fight -- Five Shaolin Masters Meng Fei vs. Lau Kar Wing [Liu Chia Liang] End fight -- The Shaolin Kingboxer Meng Fei vs. Yasuaki Kurata End fight -- The King Boxer [Hands of Death] Meng Fei/Chi Kuan Chun vs. the villains End fight -- The Ways of Kung Fu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Alexandra Posted July 9, 2010 Author Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 Has anyone ever noticed his facial exxpressions during his fighting scenes?. The way he pots and curls his lips. His elegent body movements?. One can say he has his own signature style. Of course I noticed the special facial expressions during his fighting scenes, and agree with you about his elegance in several movements (special with fan) and the way he smile, is his own signature. Alexandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member slazenger_7 Posted July 9, 2010 Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 Alexandra, do you think that maybe MENG FEI had some influence on Alexander Fu Sheng's screen persona? Mr. FEI's usage of the fan in the fight scenes of some of his Kung Fu movies seems to be taken to another level, but I wonder if he was the first one to do so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Alexandra Posted July 10, 2010 Author Member Share Posted July 10, 2010 Alexandra, do you think that maybe MENG FEI had some influence on Alexander Fu Sheng's screen persona? Mr. FEI's usage of the fan in the fight scenes of some of his Kung Fu movies seems to be taken to another level, but I wonder if he was the first one to do so? No, I really think that Alexander was unique, and Fei Fei too. Each one in their own ways of expressions are different. Concerning fan fighting: I don't know exactly where and which was the fan teacher of Fei Fei. Is a very hard discipline. I have my personal admiration for all the men whom fight with fan. Of course many actors from Shaw Brothers were trained there, I guess in Southern Style specially Choy Li Fat and Hung Gar. But with weapons, more training is needed and other related disciplines. I like very much Adam Cheng when he fights with fan. He started his career in 1966, is really tall (1, 80 mt) that give him some "scenic presence" together with a good acting training. I find in his skills with fan precition, finesse, elegance, powerful resolution. Watch "Be Careful Sweetheart" (Victims of the Assassin) of 1984, the fan fighting scenes are exquisite. With this sword, the fan, the actor need a dosis of elegance and power without loose the male profile, and I think that Fei Fei made a good work when he played roles of chevalier... more, I think that he, dressed in white, with the fan, was an icon of the elegance, charming and rogue young man, on screen. Is far different of Adam Cheng. All of them, including Alexander, were different, in their own styles. Alexandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member tantao3-son of tantao2 Posted July 10, 2010 Member Share Posted July 10, 2010 Meng Fei's best movies imho: his early 80-ies swordplay movies: Young Moon Legend Everlasting Chivalry Legend Of Lu Xiao Feng Take The Rap etc. btw talking about Fu Sheng/Meng Fei, the late Chang Cheh was said: there is only place for one Fu Sheng at Shaw's.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member slazenger_7 Posted July 10, 2010 Member Share Posted July 10, 2010 Meng Fei's best movies imho: his early 80-ies btw talking about Fu Sheng/Meng Fei, the late Chang Cheh was said: there is only place for one Fu Sheng at Shaw's.......... That is a very revealing statement...Does that mean that the screen persona of those two was too similar? Or that Fu Sheng possibly might have been influenced by Meng Fei? But in Five Shaolin Masters, they worked very well in their scenes together, where Meng Fei gave one of his more serious, thoughtful performances. While Fu Sheng perpetuated his screen persona of light-hearted charm. A kind of Chinese Terence Hill. Did Mr. Chang Cheh actually say that? That would explain why Chang Cheh gave Mr. Fei the least screen time in Five Shaolin Masters...And didn't commit himself to take on Mr. Fei as an official Shaw Brothers leading star... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member yeungliza Posted July 10, 2010 Member Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hello MS Oropesa. I can't help but marvel what a remarkable and honest woman you are. You said you sense an honesty in me. I do try to be as honest as I can be because at the end of the day, I have to live with my actions ans my conscience. One can't help but marvel at what a devoted and wise mother you obviously are. Please continue to steer Gabriel away from foreseen danger, that is all that you can do. You are quite a lady. When high profile marriages end, there is so much blame and bitterness. You seem to have forgiven Meng Fei completely for any fault he may have had in the breakdown of your union. It takes a heart filled with love and forgiveness to to that. I read your loce story with Meng Fei and I am kind of sad that such a strong and beautiful love could have gone wrong. Your pictures tell a story of a family that loved each other deeply and unconditionally. You know Ms Oropesa, this thread has benefitted so much because of you. You have given us so much insight into Meng Fei the man, father, husband, and human being, not just the celebrety. That sort of knowledge is priceless. We can never repay you. We can only thank you from our hearts. I personally want to say THANK YOU.. How many celebrities such as yourself would give us the time of day. Yet here you are being kind to us and filling in so many Meng Fei gaps in this thread. It shows a humble and human side to you which many celebs do not posess. I will never forget this, and will always be grateful. It is safe to assume the other members feel the same way. THANK YOU! May you be blessed. May you be safe. May you be at peace, and happy.Honest people deserve that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member yeungliza Posted July 10, 2010 Member Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hello Mrs. Yeung, First of all, I want to thank you profusely for posting your family photos with Gabriel, yourself, and your husband, Gabriel's Dad... Words aren't adequate to express what MENG FEI fans must be feeling viewing those wonderful family photos you provided. When I found all those MENG FEI photos from all over the internet, I thought I struck gold until I viewed the ones you just posted. I also have a deep sense of ambivalence now in retrospect for posting them here in Alexandra's MENG FEI thread at Kung Fu Cinema Forum. I cannot imagine what your son must have felt when he viewed those photos of Mr. FEI and his other family. Nonetheless, for any MENG FEI fan, Alexandra's MENG FEI thread is unrivalled and complete thanks to your presence. With all due respect to Mr. Jackie Chan and his accomplishments, in my view, he NEVER came close to some of my childhood martial arts movie heroes such as Bruce Lee, Chen Kuan Tai, David Chiang, Chi Kuan Chun, Ti Lung, Fu Sheng, or MENG FEI... They were in a class all by themselves. Its just that with the exception of Bruce Lee, the others didn't get the proper U.S.-Canada or worldwide marketing and promotion that Lee had. From research of early 70's Hong Kong cinema, your husband--MENG FEI--was a contemporary rival with the '71 & '72 HK releases of Hands Of Death[The King Boxer] and The Prodigal Boxer. Bruce Lee was quite articulate in English which helped him tremendously in the West, plus he was a terrific self-promoter. No one MARKETED Bruce Lee better than Bruce Lee... Up until Five Shaolin Masters, Mr. FEI seemed to be aiming for the stars...I wonder what would have happened if director Chang Cheh would have taken far more interest in him with a career with Shaw Brothers than he had...? Did Mr. FEI ever discuss his doing only the one film with Chang Cheh and Shaw Brothers? Also, Gabriel looks so much like his Dad, I wonder how Mr. FEI would react if he saw him now? We pray that this inevitable meeting takes place soon, Inshallah[God willing]... Your life story is truly fascinating...! Salamat. dear Slazenger_7, advance happy birthday! A happy healthy long life to you! I'm greeting you now just in case I don't get the chance to greet you on the 17th, i'm leaving for Bali to compete and attend the refresher course for Kalimasada Pilateh Nacional. (Masteral). I don't think Meng Fei is into computers.. I don't think he knows that kung fu cinema forums exists. Fans can only write to him through CTV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member slazenger_7 Posted July 10, 2010 Member Share Posted July 10, 2010 dear Slazenger_7, advance happy birthday! A happy healthy long life to you! I'm greeting you now just in case I don't get the chance to greet you on the 17th, i'm leaving for Bali to compete and attend the refresher course for Kalimasada Pilateh Nacional. (Masteral). I don't think Meng Fei is into computers.. I don't think he knows that kung fu cinema forums exists. Fans can only write to him through CTV. Dear Mrs. Yeung, An advanced HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you as well! Thank you very much for the kind b-day greeting. Best of luck on your refresher at Bali! That is funny what you said about Mr. FEI not knowing Kung Fu cinema forums exist...LOL. What we are possibly hoping for is his 2nd son Meng Xiang[Wang Baixiang] surfing the net and coming across this website...Just as Mr. FEI's oldest son Gabriel did...There is always the chance that he might inform Mr. FEI of this site with pictures of his father and yourself and Gabriel [his elder half-brother]. I wonder if Meng Xiang[Meng Baixiang] knows that he has an older half-brother in Gabriel? I remember when one of my best friends--Nash (his nickname)--find out at age 14 that his Dad had another son from a previous marriage, and boy was he interested in finding about him and meeting him...And did he ever question his father about keeping this a secret from him...This is an absolutely true story, by the way...They two did end up meeting, several times, actually... Salamat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Alexandra Posted July 10, 2010 Author Member Share Posted July 10, 2010 Two more added to my list (watched complete) - Five Kung Fu Daredevil Heroes (good, good) - Matching Escort (I really don't know what say about this movie, or how classify it, bizarrre? baroque? overacted? weird? hmmmm) Alexandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Alexandra Posted July 10, 2010 Author Member Share Posted July 10, 2010 Everyone loves African masks? I really love the african masks and the ritual of masking. I am writing a guide for an exhibition here, and is a pleasure to deal with those amazing pieces of art... and others from asian cultures... fascinating subject (masking rituals) Alexandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Alexandra Posted July 11, 2010 Author Member Share Posted July 11, 2010 btw talking about Fu Sheng/Meng Fei, the late Chang Cheh was said: there is only place for one Fu Sheng at Shaw's.......... Yes is true, this words of Chang Cheh... He discovered and launched to stardom to Alexander and loved him like a son. Chang Cheh settled legal contracts with Alexander, first time for three years and then for five years, with exclusivity. Chang Cheh knew very well the jewel he discovered and maybe, he decided one place for one star, for one of a kind, and others with talent, like Fei Fei, maybe were rejected by him because his love and devotion for the exceptional talent of Alexander, created a feeling for not space for others. Is only a sugestion, not a statement. Alexandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Athena Posted July 12, 2010 Member Share Posted July 12, 2010 Hello, I like to ask this important question to everyone : * Were do you get or prefer to purchase your Meng Fei movies ? * What places can you recommend ? I am thankful it is getting a little easier to get his movies, but it is still not easy to get a hold of all of them... Thank you all for any reply & help here ! Hugs to all fans ,Athena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member mengfan Posted July 13, 2010 Member Share Posted July 13, 2010 First let me say happy advanced birthday wishes to both Slazenger_7 and Ms Yeungliza/ Lady Oropesa. I pray for a succesful and relaxing retreat in Bali for Ms Oropesa as well. Yes Alexandra, Meng Fei certainly had his own signature style. I am glad that I am not the only one who noticed. I would say though he was not the greatest swordsman, Meng Fei was mastered the art of the man. He was second to none with his white fan. I would say his stlye of kung fu boxing was very impressive as well. Athena, I live in Vancouver Canada and there is a video store called Happy Bats Video where I order my movies from. They have movies you don't get from any other video store in Canada.. I have also gotten some videos from Tai Seng Video. They are the largest North American source for Asian movies. I don't know who your distributor would be. Unfortunately they closed the branch here about three years ago:ooh:. There is one in San Francisco California. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member mengfan Posted July 13, 2010 Member Share Posted July 13, 2010 The movie I can't get my hand on is Enter The Whirlwind Boxer. That was the frst movie I saw with Fie.. I would gladly buy a copy even if I get it in VHS format. i want it that badly. I have to agree that Chang Cheh took a special interest in Alexander Fu Sheng and was grooming him individually for greatness in the kung fu world. I guess Fyu Sheng had a flair about him that more than the other four Shaolin masters, suited Mr C's style. It is sad that Fu Sheng met a tragic and untimely death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Alexandra Posted July 14, 2010 Author Member Share Posted July 14, 2010 Yes Alexandra, Meng Fei certainly had his own signature style. I am glad that I am not the only one who noticed. I would say though he was not the greatest swordsman, Meng Fei was mastered the art of the man. He was second to none with his white fan. I would say his stlye of kung fu boxing was very impressive as well. Yes! yes! yes! yes! I simply adore him (love him) with fan, dressed in white. Alexandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member slazenger_7 Posted July 16, 2010 Member Share Posted July 16, 2010 First let me say happy advanced birthday wishes to both Slazenger_7 and Ms Yeungliza/ Lady Oropesa. I pray for a succesful and relaxing retreat in Bali for Ms Oropesa as well. Athena, I live in Vancouver Canada and there is a video store called Happy Bats Video where I order my movies from. Thank you, Mengfan, for the b-day greeting. Very kind of you. Living in Vancouver, have you met up with one of all-time favs Mr. David Chiang? I read somewhere that Mr. Ti Lung lived there also, is that still the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member yeungliza Posted July 16, 2010 Member Share Posted July 16, 2010 Wang Baixiang knows. Long story my dear Slazenger 7. Lets just leave the kid alone. Its alright. He has his reasons. Lets respect that. Happy birthday! Yeungliza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member slazenger_7 Posted July 16, 2010 Member Share Posted July 16, 2010 Wang Baixiang knows. Long story my dear Slazenger 7. Lets just leave the kid alone. Its alright. He has his reasons. Lets respect that. Happy birthday! Yeungliza Happy Birthday! It is the 16th over here in the States. Well, here is a new years's wish, that Mr. Fei reunites with you and Gabriel...Overcoming whatever it may be that is holding him back. Life is too short...Taking the sad examples of the late Bruce Lee, Brandon Lee, and Alexander Fu Sheng...Sad, not so much because they all died young, as they accomplished so much in so little time, but because they were involuntarily separated from the ones who loved them, and whom they loved... Cheers! By the way, where exactly were you born? I had meant to ask before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Alexandra Posted July 17, 2010 Author Member Share Posted July 17, 2010 It's clear that this thread was open to all the people, my intention was to express my admiration for Fei Fei ... not leaving my woman point of view aside, in spite of the great presence of celebrities here, I will not stop with my love expressions because there is nothing bad in them, just only remark that this man is impossible to believe when I watch him on screen... how can a person tresspass the camera lense with this bestial male beauty? Ladies..... I love him. Alexandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Alexandra Posted July 17, 2010 Author Member Share Posted July 17, 2010 Dear Slazenger Happy Birthday!!! My best wishes in your new year!!! . :khi8j::khi8j::khi8j: Ah, of course, in the same day, Happy Birthday for Mrs. Oropesa too!!! Have a super new year! Alexandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member slazenger_7 Posted July 17, 2010 Member Share Posted July 17, 2010 Dear Slazenger Happy Birthday!!! My best wishes in your new year!!! . :khi8j::khi8j::khi8j: Ah, of course, in the same day, Happy Birthday for Mrs. Oropesa too!!! Have a super new year! Alexandra THANK YOU, SWEET ALEXANDRA! I can't believe I've completed 44 years...Where did the time go? I remember just yesterday, I was practicing my kicks and leaps upon some of the feisty kids from the old neighborhood and in school...The moves I watched my boyhood heroes Bruce Lee, David Chiang, and MENG FEI perform! I got my brains bashed in half of the time, but I wouldn't have traded those memories in for anything different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member slazenger_7 Posted July 17, 2010 Member Share Posted July 17, 2010 I really think that Alexander was unique, and Fei Fei too. Each one in their own ways of expressions are different. Meng Fei's character of Fang Ta Hung in Cheng Cheh's FIVE SHAOLIN MASTERS was my favorite Meng Fei performance in a martial arts film. I have not seen any of Mr. Fei's work outside of the martial arts genre, unfortunately. He had done considerable non-martial arts work for some time, though... In FSM, Mr. Fei really expressed a tormented fighter who secretly harbors feelings of guilt at being forced to abandon Gordon Liu's character after having temporarily freed him from the Manchus... Only David Chiang and Ti Lung matched Mr. Fei's tortured Shaolin master, in their respective performances...But Meng Fei's Fang had an extra dimension that the other two screen roles did not have...And that was a sense of guilt. That is what made Mr. Fei's character portrayal so deeply moving. Unlike Chi Kuan Chun's Li Shih Kai, who is inadvertently responsible for the death of Tang Yan Tsan's character, Mr. Fei's interpretation of Fang subtly implies that he almost wants to die fighting the Manchus--especially, the Leung Kar Yan character. Fu Sheng's character seemed a welcome comic relief for most of the film. Otherwise, FSM would have been too sad a film, and difficult to watch. From very careful analysis of Meng Fei's character portrayal in FSM, I think Mr. Fei should have pursued more serious roles in martial arts films. However, he should have balanced them with those lighthearted roles in so many of his films post-FSM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Alexandra Posted July 22, 2010 Author Member Share Posted July 22, 2010 From very careful analysis of Meng Fei's character portrayal in FSM, I think Mr. Fei should have pursued more serious roles in martial arts films. However, he should have balanced them with those lighthearted roles in so many of his films post-FSM. Yes, in part agree with you. 50/50. The genres in far east cinema, precicely "wuxia", have special guidelines. Fei Fei do not escape to them. Every actor with his single personality and potential was observed by each director for show up on screen the best of him. Fei Fei was a fantastic complete actor, he made serious and comic roles, not properly "drama" because we enter in a hard definition of "genres" in chinese martial art cinema. This cinema don't fit in our categories, is different. There are not concept of protagonist, and of course there is a central figure, but a constellation of others stars that share with the "pseudo protagonist" a high level of screen presence, unthinkable for the western concept of "protagonist". If you watch "King Boxer", the videograph says "Introducing Meng Fei". Of course, was his first movie. He carries on all the movie super very well. He was a talent since the first time on screen. The other actor, supossed the "protagonist", the muay thai fighter, only plays a little in proportion with Fei Fei. And I mentioned "dramatic roles" because in acting, there is a extra fine line between the dramatic-comedy and the comedy. The best example I can pick up is Kung Fu of Eight Drunkards. Fei Fei done a super excellent performance, since the point of view of acting. I am not talking of "martial arts performance" but "acting". He developed a strong character, turning sometimes in comedian, and sometimes in a dramatic-comedian. Dramatic-comedy is not equal to drama, as genre. Drama could be your mention of Five Shaolin Master when Fei Fei shows a tormented one. I will try to make a simple review of my impressions of Fei Fei's movies, and with emphasis in the acting, in the Social Group, open to debate. Could be nice. Alexandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member slazenger_7 Posted July 22, 2010 Member Share Posted July 22, 2010 Drama could be your mention of Five Shaolin Master when Fei Fei shows a tormented one. I would like your observation and analysis of Meng Fei's portrayal of Fang Ta Hung in Cheng Cheh's FIVE SHAOLIN MASTERS(1974)... To me, I think that Mr. Cheh, even though he ended up giving Meng Fei the least screen time, allowed or maybe even prompted Mr. Fei to elicit one of the most dramatically serious performances of Meng Fei's martial arts film career... It was Meng Fei's most mature performance up to that time in his screen career, and the only regret is that Chang Cheh did not prompt Shaw screenwriter I Kuang to add more scenes for the Fang character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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