Guest Markgway Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Never mind who shot JFK? Or who was Jack the Ripper? THIS is THE mystery to end all mysteries... lol! The HKFA credits LAM Kwok-Cheung and Jospeh VELASCO The HKMDB credits LAM Kwok-Cheung The English dub print credits Joseph VELASCO The KOFA credits CHOE U-YEONG The Vengeance DVD credits JAMES NAM Seriously, who the fuck??? You guys know I'm a bit of a stickler for getting these details right, but this film is proving a pain in the arse. Seems to me to be a co-production between three companies: TAE CHANG (South Korea); P.T. INSANTRA (HK); and R.J.T. GROUP (either HK or The Philippines?) The cast are comprised of Chinese and Korean actors so maybe no Filipino production involvement (even if the filmmakers might be). Help a dude out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Cast assistance: http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/images.mhtml?id=6233&display_set=eng Can anyone ID photos #7, 14, and 19 (white headband)? From L to R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member tantao3-son of tantao2 Posted March 18, 2009 Member Share Posted March 18, 2009 director: tantao4,son of tantao3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted March 18, 2009 Member Share Posted March 18, 2009 Lee Tso Nam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member The Dragon Posted March 18, 2009 Member Share Posted March 18, 2009 Why would anyone want to take credit for that crap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Brilliant. Now we can put forward Li Tso-Nan as a possibility. Is there anyone who hasn't been credited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted March 18, 2009 Member Share Posted March 18, 2009 Every site you check, has different info..... Linn would have known! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Killer Meteor Posted March 18, 2009 Member Share Posted March 18, 2009 Is Joseph Velasco a pesudonym? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted March 18, 2009 Member Share Posted March 18, 2009 I always thought it was a pseudonym for Lee Tso Nam... But now I have my doubts! HKcinemagic has Lee and Lam Gwok Cheung down as directors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Every site you check, has different info..... Linn would have known! I'm sure he would have. It's a shame that all his years of research sits unused. Is Joseph Velasco a pesudonym? I wondered about that... but now I'm thinking he maybe a Filipino like the producers he worked for? I always thought it was a pseudonym for Lee Tso Nam... But now I have my doubts! I believe Li's pseudonym is Tu Lu-Po. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member tantao3-son of tantao2 Posted March 20, 2009 Member Share Posted March 20, 2009 Director is Joseph Kong Hung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Is that a pseudonym for Joseph Velasco? I need clarification please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Killer Meteor Posted March 20, 2009 Member Share Posted March 20, 2009 About the Vengenace: It was a German print before the new credits were added. Maybe Vengeance credited James Nam due to mis-information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member silver hermit Posted March 20, 2009 Member Share Posted March 20, 2009 I'm sure he would have. It's a shame that all his years of research sits unused. yes that is a crime, i feel that way about all your research mark. you should at least put it up on a website somewhere or contribute it to the HKMDB or the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 yes that is a crime, i feel that way about all your research mark. you should at least put it up on a website somewhere or contribute it to the HKMDB or the like. Jeez, I hope nothing bad happens to me. But you never know do you? I'm sure Linn's reasearch (including rare interviews, etc) was much more expansive (and valuable) than mine. I do plan to do something with my writings someday though. Thanks for the kind words, Hermit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 About the Vengenace: It was a German print before the new credits were added. Maybe Vengeance credited James Nam due to mis-information? Lol, yeah, you can tell because if you step the frames on the disc you can get a glimpse of the old German credits (they're also on You Tube). Vengeance never do anything with finese. They use the Korean credits as a basis - clearly Venegance feel that they're more accurate but I'm not convinced at all this was a pure Korean production. Huang Chien Lung worked for Insantra who turned him into a clone and no other pure Korean work has so many Chinese actors in it (maybe one of two at most...) But even the KOFA claims the director was Choe U-Yeong (not James Nam). So I'd love to know where they got Nam from (apart from him being in it as the white tiger)? Did Choe direct or co-direct? Maybe - hard to say. Quite often the KOFA list assistant dirs or dirs of reshoots as the main director so it could be dubious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member tantao3-son of tantao2 Posted March 21, 2009 Member Share Posted March 21, 2009 I think Joseph Valesco is a pseudo used by Joseph Kong when he directed all these Insantra Bruce Le movies...It it very difficult to see "behind" all these indie producers/directors of the mid-late seventies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Yes, it's very tricky doing research on these invisible filmmakers. Most of whom have never been interviewed or profiled. I wasn't sure if Valesco was the pseudonym or Kong? I thought he might be Filipino? But then maybe he's Chinese and was using a a non-Chinese sounding name for export prints? Mind you Valesco is hardly an obvious choice for anglicization. At least the Italians used names like Anthony Dawson. lol The mystery remains... But to go back to my point... what makes you sure it's Kong/Valesco? And who is credited on the Chinese prints (which I've never seen)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member tantao3-son of tantao2 Posted March 21, 2009 Member Share Posted March 21, 2009 Bruce Le personally told a friend of mine that Joseph Kong directed these... But maybe there exists a Joseph Valesco (co-producer?investor?...?) and his name was used by Joseph Kong... Talking about this matter I remember an old article in the mag Martial Arts Movies ca. February 1982 where they talked about Insantra productions etc....but it did not seem too accurate to me back then as they told lots of bullshit about Bruce Le in this article...And talking about Insantra/Insan production I remember Linn talking about that "new" label Eastern Star: if I remember correctely (but someone on this forum may have these posts for sure), this label was associated with it???...But it seems this label never released anything except some covers... I do not have a Chinese poster/print of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Interesting info... thanks. Someone needs to do a proper Bruce Le interview now so we can clear up this untapped area of Bruceploitation. Never seen a Chinese poster for ETGOD although one is sure to exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted April 6, 2009 Member Share Posted April 6, 2009 Was this mystery ever solved??? Are we going with Joseph kung Hong?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Well, it's his name on the credits, so I guess........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member bolofan Posted April 9, 2009 Member Share Posted April 9, 2009 It probably doesn't shed much light but Joseph Valescos name is also on the original trailer as the Director. But I suppose they still could have got it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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