Member Morgoth Bauglir Posted March 19, 2010 Member Share Posted March 19, 2010 Excuse me if this sounds stupid, but what is AMRS? I agree with shapes that the best part is the opening fight with Carter Wong. Brilliantly shot and choreographed. But when he gets to Chang Yi I remember the fight ending too quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Morgoth Bauglir Posted March 19, 2010 Member Share Posted March 19, 2010 Maybe AMRS = Actual Movie Restored Something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Shaolin_Fox Posted March 19, 2010 Member Share Posted March 19, 2010 Excuse me if this sounds stupid, but what is AMRS? Asian Movie Restoration Society (AMRS) is this group in FLK forums that encourages fans to take part in developing and producing some rares and uncuts. They distribute them among its members. I agree with shapes that the best part is the opening fight with Carter Wong. Brilliantly shot and choreographed. But when he gets to Chang Yi I remember the fight ending too quick. I agree, the opening fight is one of the best in that film. But I guess it would make sense for Chang Yi to kill off Carter Wong's character quickly to develop Chang Yi's character more, and also because at that point in the film Cater Wong was wounded so that would also make sense on why he was killed off quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Morgoth Bauglir Posted March 19, 2010 Member Share Posted March 19, 2010 Wow AMRS souds really cool. Too bad I'm horrible with computers and don't know anything about making DVDs, because I'd love to be part of that. Carter Wong does take a lot of damage, kinda Chang Cheh style in that opening. But still even after all that I expected him to give Chang Yi a good fight. But I agree they must have wanted to develop Chang Yi's character there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Shaolin_Fox Posted March 19, 2010 Member Share Posted March 19, 2010 Anyone know if the FLK version is uncut? I've been wanting to get it for a while, but haven't heard anything about it. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member shapes Posted March 19, 2010 Member Share Posted March 19, 2010 I have a Mandarin PAL vers 86 mins and a English (Most likely PAL) vers 87 mins both version without first film logo, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Excuse me if this sounds stupid, but what is AMRS? Yeah, that puzzled me too. And not at liberty to say?? It's hardly the JFK assassination... lol I take it these fan projects are in circulation. So can anyone actually tell us if there is one for The Ming Patriots? Shapes - does your Mandarin version come with subtitles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Chia Ling AKA Judy Lee Posted March 19, 2010 Member Share Posted March 19, 2010 The AMRS print is uncut, letterbox, sub and dub. It is unfortunately not in circulation due to the way the AMRS operates. This has been discussed before and created a bit of fuss, so the projects are not discussed much to prevent any ill feelings. However, Morgoth, all, the AMRS is open to all to join although you need to be voted in unanimously by the existing members. You do not need to have DVD authoring skills; potential members need to display commitment and also have something to contribute in terms of alternative prints / soundtracks or original trailers, or the willingness to research star filmographies/biographies, or transcribe subtitles. Many tasks and skills are required for each project as the aim is to create the ultimate version of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member shapes Posted March 19, 2010 Member Share Posted March 19, 2010 Shapes - does your Mandarin version come with subtitles? Yes it Does , fullscreen Mandarin Subs, prehaps I should try do a Project with all the elements as the English print is Excellant quality better than the Groundz zero release, a lot of it is anomorphic so can be unsqueezed. Mandarin track added and subbed, I have an English print from Jordan not sure if it has anything extra in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 The AMRS print is uncut, letterbox, sub and dub. It is unfortunately not in circulation due to the way the AMRS operates. This has been discussed before and created a bit of fuss, so the projects are not discussed much to prevent any ill feelings. That's fucked up. I guess these are the kind of "fans" who are more into the prestige of owning rare movies than sharing them with others. What's the point of putting a load of work into a project so that only an elite can see it? Ach, I'm wasting my breath as usual. Does anyone know what is cut from the Revenge of the Patriots version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Chia Ling AKA Judy Lee Posted March 19, 2010 Member Share Posted March 19, 2010 That's fucked up. I guess these are the kind of "fans" who are more into the prestige of owning rare movies than sharing them with others. What's the point of putting a load of work into a project so that only an elite can see it? Ach, I'm wasting my breath as usual. The effort goes in for the members' personal enjoyment, it is not an elite group at all or I would not be a part of it. I understand your frustration but the effort would not occur if we saw the projects being booted by Red Sun etc the next month. It was a group decision and as has been stressed membership is open. If you want to enjoy the projects then put in the effort it requires, if not then you're losing nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 It was a group decision and as has been stressed membership is open. the AMRS is open to all to join although you need to be voted in unanimously by the existing members That's not quite the same is it? AMRS is an elite in that you need approval to join the club. Though I do understand the desire not to see hard work booted by thieving scum for profit, it's a shame that those with nothing to offer (or even casual fans) will miss out. I can understand someone who's big paid money for film reels and searched foreign lands for materials not giving them away for free... but with these projects aren't we just talking about re-syncing soundtracks and the like? Hardly a big deal. Even if I were a member I would say share to KFC members... but then I understand I might be in a minority here. Anyhow it doesn't matter what I think; you guys have your own rules and are gonna do what you're gonna do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member silver hermit Posted March 19, 2010 Member Share Posted March 19, 2010 That's not quite the same is it? AMRS is an elite in that you need approval to join the club. Though I do understand the desire not to see hard work booted by thieving scum for profit, it's a shame that those with nothing to offer (or even casual fans) will miss out. I can understand someone who's big paid money for film reels and searched foreign lands for materials not giving them away for free... but with these projects aren't we just talking about re-syncing soundtracks and the like? Hardly a big deal. Even if I were a member I would say share to KFC members... but then I understand I might be in a minority here. Anyhow it doesn't matter what I think; you guys have your own rules and are gonna do what you're gonna do... with the amount of research you do/done mark you would have plenty to offer them. give it a go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Chia Ling AKA Judy Lee Posted March 19, 2010 Member Share Posted March 19, 2010 It's not elite in that there is no status involved and anyone is equally considered for membership. You might be suprised in hearing we're all friendly, happy people that love watching and sharing kung fu films with all fans and having traded and established friendships and trust decided to take it a step further. In an ideal world we would send it out to everyone interested but compromises have to be made for the group to work at all. That's not to say they would never be made available, I'd like to see that happen personally. The effort that is involved is however much you put in and you get out what you put in. I suggest other people get together and try it and see what they can do, rather like Jamal has done. It'd then be great to see if trades could happen between groups. In the AMRS case it is more than just re-synching, we're talking about sourcing rare prints, cleaning them, splicing in cut scenes, transposing subtitles (or sometimes dubtitles), sourcing original trailers, finding images and creating cover art (preferably from original poster art), writing liner notes and all the other tasks I mentioned earlier. That's what we do but it doesn't have to be so exhaustive, we're lucky to have many talented and committed members. Linn was one of the founding members and, as he did, we all want kung fu fans to come together for the good of the genre and for everyone's benefit. It is shame that the somewhat exclusive nature of the group could lead to conflict but it is not intended and I hope with time it is accepted and treated as a model for moving forward in a time of little commercial promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Eloquently argued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member bruceleeclones Posted March 19, 2010 Member Share Posted March 19, 2010 ive got the mandarin subbed version, the german VHS, and the ground zero DVD. None are that great, and are cut. I'd be curious to know the source of the excellent quality english print Shapes mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 ive got the mandarin subbed version, the german VHS, and the ground zero DVD. None are that great, and are cut. I'd be curious to know the source of the excellent quality english print Shapes mentioned? What's cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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