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Vengeance have it out now, but Rarescope are re-releasing it. Just wondered about people's opinions of it. It has a nice looking cast!

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have made a mad mad decision with using that title. 'Chinese Hercules' was the same (I'd give it an exception I suppose). Is 'Showdown At The Cotton Mill' a retitle? 'Choy Lee Fut Kung Fu' also had a retitle (the original is there, but impossible to read until the close-up where it's replaced).

Thanks Mark.

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But everyone knows Chinese Hercules as Chinese Hercules now. If it was released under it's original title, would you know what it is ?

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If it was released under it's original title, would you know what it is ?

Freedom Strikes a Blow. The 'Chinese Hercules' print was used, so I suppose I could excuse that.

The NGP print was the only one in full 2:35:1 that was available to Rarescope. The abridged Mandarin soundtrack (and opening credits) came from a different source.

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But everyone knows Chinese Hercules as Chinese Hercules now. If it was released under it's original title, would you know what it is ?

I don't think that's the point unless you're treating fans like idiots.

You could mention it on the back of the packaging "aka Chinese Hercules" or something?

Mind you, if as Chen says, the print contains the Hercules title, then that's fair enough... they could mention the orignal title on the back.

Never hurts to gain knowledge.

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'Quick Cutting Without Knife' (can anyone shed light on this one?) - Rarescope have pasted a blackbar over it with this title.

Choi and Showdown will be the original one, I just don't get why the real title cards aren't in the main feature and only on lobby cards.

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Sometimes Taiwanese versions have different English titles. Like 'The Damned' became 'Bandits, Prostitutes & Silver': or vice-versa depending on where it was released first? 'Countdown in Kung Fu' was retitled The Hand of Death for HK (or was it international?) release. It's sometimes tricky to know which is "correct". I believe 'Choi Lee Fat' is also a HK film so I think that would be the "original" title. Feel free to prove me wrong, guys... ;)

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Taiwnese have different chinese titles as the HK names are not popular with taiwnese audiences .like Magnificent butcher was retitled from Lam sai wing to Yan Jeh Mo Dik, as Lam Sai Wing is a cantonese/HK perosnality and not widly know in Taiwan same goesfor Cotton mill and choi lee fat, they gave the film films more swordplay sounding chinese titles.

Hand of death was for the international relase of countdown in kung fu

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Was it 'Bandits, Prostitutes & Silver' originally or 'The Damned'? I have a poster image which shows the former, but it seems to have been released in HK as the latter?

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no idea, i saw the film in chinatown on its first run i remember that it was adverstied as the damned on the (orig)poster, but I forget what title was on screen.

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I was wondering about this film. Has anyone seen it? The fights on youtube don't look bad. Is it a comedy in the same vein as Drunken Master?

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Drunken Master, Slippery Snake (1979) - aka Ol' Dirty Kung Fu and Mad Mad Kung Fu - One of dozens of films that were produced in the wake of Jackie Chan's success with his Yuen Woo-Ping collaborations, this one ranks on the lower end of "average" on the quality spectrum. The film is little more than a shoddy reproduction of sight gags and set pieces from both Snake in the Eagle's Shadow and Drunken Master, with an even *less* coherent plot than the latter. Simon Yuen Siu-Tin plays Sam See...I mean Beggar So...I mean Bamboo Stick, a powerful kung fu beggar. He saves the daughter of some family from a forced marriage to the local rich kung fu master's son (said master is played by Lee Hoi-San of The Magnificent Butcher) by beating him up and killing him via a mahjong title embedded in the forehead. The rich kung fu master vows revenge, taking his anger out on Bamboo Stick's student (Peter Chan), who works for an escort service. The student is framed for the theft of an important jade ring, and goes on the lam with a laborer (Cliff Lok). They spend the better part of an hour getting into random fights before the rich kung fu master catches up to them...

Some of the fighting, notably those that involve Lee Hoi-san, is pretty good, but nothing special compared to other kung fu comedies of the era. The mandatory training sequences in this are so short and perfunctory that I wonder why they were even included in the first place. I mean, other than justifying one of the film's titles, Cliff Lok wriggling under a bunch of benches doesn't really make much difference in both his fighting style or in the film's entertainment value. Considering that producer Ng See-Yuen had wanted Cliff Lok for the lead role in Snake in the Eagle's Shadow, this film stands as a glimpse into how *that* movie would've turned out had Yuen Woo-Ping had not convinced him to cast Jackie Chan instead. Yuen Woo-Ping made the right decision.

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