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The Forbidden Kingdom (2008)


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well, I checked out dddhouse and hkflix, as well as Joy Sales' website, and they all have the same info listed...Cantonese track, no English track. I did email Joy Sales to confirm whether or not there will be the original English track though, but I have a feeling the Weinsteins have a hand in this one.

Someone over at Kfccinema mentioned confirming with Joy Sales that there will be an English track on the HK DVD.

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ok, I believe that the person who mentioned that is someone who works on Joy Sales dvds, doing subtitles or something, so they should definitely know what they're talking about.

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I have a dvd with an english track & subs for when the characters are speaking Mandarin during the ancient china scenes.

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The HK version contains Cantonese track only. The opening is English (maybe the ending too, but haven't reached there), but the rest is Cantonese..

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Can anyone confirm the length of the Cantonese version? Is it the same as the 104-minute American version? I'm wondering if any of the deleted scenes included on the U.S. DVD release were added to the HK print.

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I finally watched this the other day. LOVED the opening credits! The fight scenes were good, for the most part, in my opinion. That white kid didn't do anything for me. Neither did any of the acting in the entire movie. Although, Jackie Chan was great as the old man. Jet was boring. Goldnen Sparrow was hot. And...that's about it. It had me entertained about half of the time.

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that kid learned a lot very quickly, he was able to put up a good fight with that woman who was a highly experienced fighter. It was good he was able to beat the bullies! :)

i loved the titles and jet li and jackie chan together.

I love them!

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GOLDEN DRAGON YIN-YANG
The first reviews for Jackie's and Jet's movie are not favorable.

I'll see what our main paper says today.

I was hoping for a good one we shall see.

GD Y-Y

Well those reviews were wrong.

Mark Pollards's review is how I feel about this movie after seeing it a few days ago.

I loved every moment of this unique pairing of Jet and Jackie.

Is this there only outing?

One of my favorite modern kung fu movie efforts.

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Well those reviews were wrong.

Mark Pollards's review is how I feel about this movie after seeing it a few days ago.

I loved every moment of this unique pairing of Jet and Jackie.

Is this there only outing?

One of my favorite modern kung fu movie efforts.

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTjL24yVKVLLoXrIpsdfdiBJ7H8Qk8sZ5RlZkM0-9wcDd_Mf7vy

Gd Y-Y

Yeah, best to experience this with a theater audience. Saw it opening weekend, lots of fun. Like an 80s fantasy kids movie mixed in with Martial Arts. Then again what 80s fantasy kids movies that doesn't have some sort of Martial arts in it.

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Yeah, best to experience this with a theater audience. Saw it opening weekend, lots of fun. Like an 80s fantasy kids movie mixed in with Martial Arts. Then again what 80s fantasy kids movies that doesn't have some sort of Martial arts in it.

Lucky you OKFC.

I miss those days in the 80's when triple headers was a day well spent seeing and being blown away by the martial arts movie experience.

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GOLDEN DRAGON YIN-YANG
I finally watched this the other day. LOVED the opening credits! The fight scenes were good, for the most part, in my opinion. That white kid didn't do anything for me. Neither did any of the acting in the entire movie. Although, Jackie Chan was great as the old man. Jet was boring. Goldnen Sparrow was hot. And...that's about it. It had me entertained about half of the time.

5EB I disagree I liked the kid.

Thought he did well in his fight scenes.

GD Y-Y

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I thought I had posted this on this site, but could not find it. I wrote this in 2008 for a now-defunct site.

After reading a brief synopsis of the film with the film I knew not to go into the film with high expectations. Fortunately (or unfortunately) the film was much pretty much what I had envisioned with a few notable exceptions. Much halloo has been made of the fact that this is the first film with Jackie Chan and Jet Li. Both have become international superstars, both have an excellent repertoire with martial arts, both have played Wong Fei Hung (Jackie Chan in Drunken Master (1978) and Jet Li in Once Upon A Time In China (1991)), but neither have the ever appeared in a film together. The reasons are sundry and probably have to do with past egos, but better late than never (Spielberg, it is not too late to hire either one of these actors). Though imagine what could have been made in the late 80s with these two.

What had me most concerned with this film was that it is centered on a milquetoast Hong Kong Shaw Brother's film fanatic Jason Tripitikas (Michael Angarano: Sky High (2005)) who spends his time buying bootleg VCD/DVDs in Chinatown and being bullied by weenie local thugs. Though this might hit the demographic of many martial art film fans, I was ambivalent about its use of a focal point away from Jackie or Jet. Both of these actors can carry a film and the insertion of Tripitikas felt superfluous and relegated this movie to young teen-movie status. His performance was OK though, just nothing that special.

Tripitikas visits his normal Chinatown shop (mentioning Ten Tigers from Kuangtung (1980)) owned by a raspy voiced Old Hop (Jackie Chan in old-man makeup; thank god he did not become a Mr. Miyagi clone) and notices an exquisite staff. Old Hop states that he is waiting to return it to its rightful owner. Later, Jason acquiesces to the gang (about as scary as The Backstreet Boys) and helps them rob Hop. Things go badly as Hop gets shot and just as Jason is about to die he gets transported into a different realm (through the gate with no gate).

Luckily, this is where the story gets more interesting partially because less emphasis is put on the teen and more on the environment and new characters. Jason meets Lu Yan (Jackie Chan: though this character is more like the King of Beggars aka Beggar So played most famous by Simon Yuen in Drunken Master (1978)) whose uses drunken kung fu. Jason learns that he must return the staff to free the Monkey King (Jet Li) who was tricked into being turned to stone by the Jade War Lord (Ngai Sing: Fearless, Flash Point (2007)) and caused 500 years of unhappiness under his realm. However, there is a prophecy of an outsider who will return the staff and restore order (yes a chosen one, guess who that is). Ultimately, the chosen one team up with Golden Swallow (Liu Yi-Fei: yes the same name as the character in Come Drink with Me) who is also out for revenge against Jade War Lord who ruthless killed her family and a wandering monk (Jet Li).

I enjoyed the film for what is was. A nondescript lead does not help with the film as a whole, but there is much to like. The action choreography of Yuen Woo-ping (Hero, Drunken Master) is quite good partially because he has worked before with Jet Li and Jackie Chan. He knows exactly their aging limitations and makes the wire-work look beautiful. The fight scene between Jackie and Jet is a must watch for action fans and exquisitely beautiful. When comedy was applied it worked well. Two of these scenes stood out for me and had the audience laughing with my favorite of the two is when Jackie and Jet used Jason as an unwilling puppet while both masters trying to teach him gung fu. It is nice seeing Jet Li have a fun time with his characters. The other highlight of the movie is the penultimate fight scene between just about everybody including the Monkey King and a very pissed off hired killer -- the White Haired Assassin (Lee Bing-Bing) She is an homage to The Bride With White Hair (1993) which is also mentioned earlier in the film.

The film is a hodge-podge of Asian stories with the main plot is taken from the Ming Dynasty story "Journey to the West" (published anonymously and is foretold with an showing early in the film of, I believe but not positive since I was partially distracted at the time, Cave of the Silken Web (1967)) and put in a Wizard of Oz (1939) outline. There are some problems with the cohesion of the story, a nondescript lead and several plot problems exist, but it does not distract too much unless you are adamant about your adaptations being faithful. Rob Minkoff's direction (Stuart Little (1999), Haunted Mansion (2003)) is good, but I would have liked a more action-oriented director helming this project. I think most martial art film fanatics will be slightly disappointed by this film, but many will enjoy this movie for what it is - entertainment with a couple of excellent choreographed martial art scenes.

Let us hope that Jet Li and Jackie Chan get together again and get to be the main characters.

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I love the movie. The story is just okay, but it's very energeticly told, the characters are great and so are the visuals. But the most important thing: the action is fantastic. Clearly it's no ONG BAK and no DRUNKEN MASTER 2, but Yuen Wo-Ping choreographed wonderderful fights with excellent use of wires. Great flick and quite charming with its wuxia-references.

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GOLDEN DRAGON YIN-YANG

Let us hope that Jet Li and Jackie Chan get together again and get to be the main characters.

Quote from MASTEROFONEINCHPUNCH.

I wonder IF they will ever pair up together in another film?

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Let us hope that Jet Li and Jackie Chan get together again and get to be the main characters.

Quote from MASTEROFONEINCHPUNCH.

I wonder IF they will ever pair up together in another film?

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Well, you gotta look at this...Jackie Chan is still having a busy schedule and he's got a full plate with Dragon Blade, then Skiptrace, then Chinese Zodiac 2.

As for Jet Li, well? He is more focused on his charity work rather than filmmaking. While he is in Expendables 3, he doesn't seem to have anything up afterwards, not that it matters to him personally.

I think the chances of Li and Chan working together as leads may be slim.

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Well, you gotta look at this...Jackie Chan is still having a busy schedule and he's got a full plate with Dragon Blade, then Skiptrace, then Chinese Zodiac 2.

As for Jet Li, well? He is more focused on his charity work rather than filmmaking. While he is in Expendables 3, he doesn't seem to have anything up afterwards, not that it matters to him personally.

I think the chances of Li and Chan working together as leads may be slim.

I think your right AlbertV.

Thanks for the input.

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...I think the chances of Li and Chan working together as leads may be slim.

When it happens I expect some sort of Tough Guys (Burt Lancaster, Kirk Douglas) or Grumpy Old Men (Jack Lemmon, Walter Matthau) type of film.

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Aww man I remember hearing about a Hollywood funded version of a new 'Iron Monkey 2". Thank Gods that never happened.

And I don't care what anyone says but that Jackie/Jet fight was good. 

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7 hours ago, Iron_Leopard said:

And I don't care what anyone says but that Jackie/Jet fight was good. 

I revisited this film on Christmas Day and it's pretty good on the whole, and yes, the Jackie/Jet fight is the highlight, although putting it at the 35-minute mark is a bit disappointing. You have this great sequence where the entire film stops for almost ten minutes so these two titans of MA cinema can fight, and then plot drifts into a 25-minute lull without much action, and then suddenly you're at the climax, where Jet Li practically "underfights" Collin Chou and Jackie's big moment is against...Li Bingbing? Yeah.

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