Moderator Asmo Posted February 4, 2008 Moderator Share Posted February 4, 2008 I've got a couple, and was wondering if there are any people would recommend I get earlier than others (opinion wise). I'm talking his 70s films like the films he did for Lo Wei, and stuff like Hand of Death, Killer Meteors (a Wang Yu film, I know) and Magnificent Bodyguards. Being the completist I am, I'd love to obtain as many as possible but I'd like some opinions on the subject, and for the record I have Snake In The Eagle's Shadow and Drunken Master. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted February 4, 2008 Member Share Posted February 4, 2008 The only one I like of his, from that era is DRAGON FIST! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member bruceleeclones Posted February 4, 2008 Member Share Posted February 4, 2008 My personal favs from the Lo Wei movies in order are Snake and Crane Arts of Shaolin Fearless Hyena Dragon Fist Spiritual Kung Fu Shaolin Wooden Men Half A Loaf of Kung Fu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member AlbertV Posted February 4, 2008 Member Share Posted February 4, 2008 Killer Meteors was pretty bad. Chan, as you would guess, played the villain and it was an attempt to relauch Wang Yu, but failed. Magnificent Bodyguards I would recommend not just for Chan fanatics, but he gets to team with Leung Siu-Lung in the film and my favorite fight involves them using bells to defeat a band of evil monks. Otherwise, bruceleeclones pretty much summed it up. Hand of Death I liked. Tan Tao-Liang was the star and Chan was his partner, a spear expert. Sammo looked laughable with his buckteeth. Yuen Biao doubled for Tan on some of the more acrobatic moves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Asmo Posted February 5, 2008 Author Moderator Share Posted February 5, 2008 Hand of Death I have, just threw that in as I had a mental blank, same with Magnificent Bodyguards. I had the opportunity to purchase Magnificent Bodyguards a few weeks ago, I got other movies instead though. I hope to see it somewhere again soon though. Are those films from the Lo Wei era available to purchase at reasonable prices? I don't want to pay exorbitant sums for them at this point. Fearless Hyena I've seen, is Fearless Hyena 2 any good or is it just using the same footage as the original (as I've heard). Thanks for the opinions, I'll have to do some searching now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member bruceleeclones Posted February 5, 2008 Member Share Posted February 5, 2008 I think theres about 20mins of new jackie chan footage in Fearless Hyena 2, the rest is from other jc movies and part one. All those ones I mentioned are from when he was under contract with Lo Wei. You should be able to pick up the old jc movies cheap, most are out on budget labels. Although the remastered versions are now getting released by hong kong legends in the UK. I'd steer clear of Eagle Shadow Fist from his early work, as he's only got a small role in it, and it's a bad move too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Morgoth Bauglir Posted February 6, 2008 Member Share Posted February 6, 2008 To Kill with Intrigue is worth seeing. Not a great movie, but I loved it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Sifu Posted February 6, 2008 Member Share Posted February 6, 2008 All those ones I mentioned are from when he was under contract with Lo Wei. You should be able to pick up the old jc movies cheap, most are out on budget labels. Although the remastered versions are now getting released by hong kong legends in the UK. Yeah, I just got their New Fist of Fury release. (As you can telll from my new avatar ) That is one of the most amazing prints! They did a great job. I still have yet to see the transfer for HKL's Shaolin Wooden Men I'm excited for that one. Apparently DD just bought that one for release in October, frankly, I can't wait for that one. I enjoyed the film, I just didn't like him in the film. They put him as the principal character, when in reality it was Nora Miao. She wasn't all that amazing either, it's just interesting to watch him in '76. By the way, if you look at New Fist of Fury and Snake in the Eagle's Shadow, his eyes changed. Lo Wei told him he was too ugly, so after the box office failure of New Fist of Fury he had eye surgery to make his lids wider shortly before starting with Ng See Yuen. Less 'asian' I always hated Lo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member kungfusamurai Posted February 6, 2008 Member Share Posted February 6, 2008 All of his films are worth checking out, but out of all of them, I'd say Dragon Fist is the best. If you want the widescreen versions, but not in English or original language, there are the French releases of his films. For english widescreen and/or uncut (like in the case of Dragon Fist) you should seek out the Beverly Wilshire discs. The quality is crappy, but they are like I said w/s and uncut. I can't really say Lo Wei did a bad thing. It wasn't that Jackie had to look less asian, but you have to admit that when you compare his eyes to other leading stars, they just looked too small. I don't know about in HK, but I think a lot of people view having large eyes as being an attractive quality (sorry to those of you who don't have large eyes). Someone with small beady eyes also appears to be less intelligent or less trustworthy, for some reason. Lo Wei's decision was probably the best thing that happened to Jackie Chan, besides the name change and of course his pairing up with Ng See Yuen. KFS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member The Dragon Posted February 8, 2008 Member Share Posted February 8, 2008 Someone should have told Lo Harry Carray wanted his wide frames back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Asmo Posted February 9, 2008 Author Moderator Share Posted February 9, 2008 bruceleeclones - I see those versions (dubs) on ebay here all the time. If HKL's releasing them, I'll wait for a quality job. As for Eagle Shadow Fist, I've seen it. I didn't like it, but I didn't hate it (if that makes sense). Is it me or have some of these old films been retitled to cash on his fame (Not Scared To Die -> Eagle Shadow Fist, Police Woman -> Young Tiger/Rumble In Hong Kong)? As for Fearless Hyena 2 I may steer clear of it, unless I give in and get the boxset from HK that has Fearless Hyena 1 with it. Morgoth - I'll have to check that out. Thanks, everybody! PS. I did notice the eyes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member The Amazing Psycho Per Posted February 9, 2008 Member Share Posted February 9, 2008 I can't really say Lo Wei did a bad thing. It wasn't that Jackie had to look less asian, but you have to admit that when you compare his eyes to other leading stars, they just looked too small. I don't know about in HK, but I think a lot of people view having large eyes as being an attractive quality (sorry to those of you who don't have large eyes). Someone with small beady eyes also appears to be less intelligent or less trustworthy, for some reason. Lo Wei's decision was probably the best thing that happened to Jackie Chan, besides the name change and of course his pairing up with Ng See Yuen. That's one of the stupidest thing I have ever heard! You don't actually believe that an eye surgery helped his carreer!!! Who the f*** cares what size his eyes are!?! By the way you should definately stay clear of Fearless Hyena 2... I believe, personnaly, the most watchable movies Jackie has made in that era (of course except DM and SITES) are Snake and crane arts of shaolin and Fearless Hyena, the rest is pretty forgettable or sometimes painful to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member AlbertV Posted February 10, 2008 Member Share Posted February 10, 2008 I have to agree. Fearless Hyena II was beyond crap. The only new scenes worth mentioning aside from Jackie Chan in the teahouse were scenes involving Austin Wai from Five Superfighters (as Jackie's cousin), Hon Kwok-Choi, and Yen Shi-Kwan and Kwon Young-Moon as the bad guys. As for the finale, they recycled the first film's finale between Chan and Yen and intercut it with Wai taking on Kwon. Horrible... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Asmo Posted February 10, 2008 Author Moderator Share Posted February 10, 2008 In that case I'll definitely skip it. Was I mistaken in hearing/reading that Snake and Crane Arts of Shaolin was getting a Dragon Dynasty release as well as Shaolin Wooden Men? If not, it shouldn't be too hard to find given some searching.. EDIT: it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member kungfusamurai Posted February 11, 2008 Member Share Posted February 11, 2008 That's one of the stupidest thing I have ever heard! You don't actually believe that an eye surgery helped his carreer!!! Who the f*** cares what size his eyes are!?! You may not believe it, but physical appearance in the movie industry is everything. Do you seriously think Jackie Chan pre-surgery would have had the same mass appeal? That's not saying people with small eyes are unattractive. But it can work in one's favor if they do some slight adjusting to their physical appearance, especially if they're hoping to attract a wider audience. And the practise or belief wasn't just isolated to Jackie. If you look at most of the big name chinese movie stars, few or none of them had or have eyes like Jackie did. Whether they had surgery to alter their appearance I cannot say... Anyway, I'm not saying it was something that made or broke his career. It was just one of many factors that came together to work in his favour. KFS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member daisho2004 Posted February 11, 2008 Member Share Posted February 11, 2008 I seen nobody mentioned "The Young Master" which I thought was pretty good, more of a comedy but it had some good fight scenes in it. Definitely worth adding to your collection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jstn Posted February 11, 2008 Member Share Posted February 11, 2008 Just watched Fearless Hyena 2....disappointing...the end fight was atrocious! I was really upset about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Asmo Posted February 16, 2008 Author Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2008 I seen nobody mentioned "The Young Master" which I thought was pretty good, more of a comedy but it had some good fight scenes in it. Definitely worth adding to your collection. I've seen a dubbed version, it is a great film. Just waiting to find a subbed dvd over a dubbed one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member AlbertV Posted February 16, 2008 Member Share Posted February 16, 2008 I have a subbed version of the film. I have the Universe Video and Laser (Hong Kong) DVD of the film. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Morgoth Bauglir Posted February 17, 2008 Member Share Posted February 17, 2008 I prefer the dubbed version. The voice acting is top notch, the music is fits the movie perfectly, and Jackie sings a song at the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jstn Posted February 17, 2008 Member Share Posted February 17, 2008 I found Spiritual Kung Fu for a dollar last week, not a bad movie for a buck. : D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Asmo Posted February 17, 2008 Author Moderator Share Posted February 17, 2008 Not at all. Are the HKL releases of these out yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jstn Posted February 18, 2008 Member Share Posted February 18, 2008 Not at all. Are the HKL releases of these out yet? to be honest, Im not really sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Sifu Posted February 18, 2008 Member Share Posted February 18, 2008 They've already got New Fist of Fury, Shaolin Wooden Men AND Spiritual Kung Fu! They're the bomb! http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.545329/qx/details.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member bruceleeclones Posted February 19, 2008 Member Share Posted February 19, 2008 Hong Kong legends have so far released: Fearless Hyena Snake and Crane arts of shaolin New Fist of Fury Shaolin wooden Men Dragon Fist Spiritual Kung Fu Magnificent Bodyguards Hand of Death 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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