Member Sifu Posted December 10, 2007 Member Share Posted December 10, 2007 I've heard and read for years and years about the Wong Fei Hung film serials starring Kwan Tak-Hing that started in the 40s and started slowing down all the way down to the 70s! I've found and watched scenes of them on various websites, but never the whole film. I've seen two of 'em, but I still have problems finding more. To tell you the truth, I haven't seen many B&W Kung Fu flicks from this series for sale, period. Has anyone been had the luck of finding any. Dreadnought, The Mag Butcher or Skyhawk don't count! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Morgoth Bauglir Posted December 10, 2007 Member Share Posted December 10, 2007 You can check the buy/sell/trade section, but those films are very rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Sifu Posted December 10, 2007 Author Member Share Posted December 10, 2007 You can check the buy/sell/trade section, but those films are very rare. I know! What I always found unfair is the reason that they are so rare is because the Chinese movie market was very low-budget back then. Japanese movies from that same era are much easier to find and have amazing video quality (Chambara films for example). It's a miracle they find the HK movies they do from the 60s let alone the 50s! I just hope that one day a company would put some effort forth to find 'em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Linn1 Posted December 10, 2007 Member Share Posted December 10, 2007 in HK for years. The reason they are so hard to find are: A.Very few have been released on video and B.The prints are so hard to come by. This is because the prints were played over and over till they fell apart. The ones that didn't were used by HK TV stations to make copies and then the originals thrown out! The largest collection of these films is at the HK Film Archives and they don't even have a complete collection. The most I've seen in one private collection is 14-17 films, mostly from copies off HK TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Morgoth Bauglir Posted December 10, 2007 Member Share Posted December 10, 2007 That is just sad:( Hopefully somebody releases some of them on DVD one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Sifu Posted December 10, 2007 Author Member Share Posted December 10, 2007 I'd doubt it though, but I'd sure as hell pay for one of those copies from TV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member FrankBolte Posted December 10, 2007 Member Share Posted December 10, 2007 I have like 3 or 4 episodes of them...they dont have many fights,some of the fights are on utube..if u cant understand cantonese its absolutely boring to watch..most of the time they stand in a line and talk...the fights are interesting as u can see already early stages of drunkenfist (who said jackie invented that?) as a matter of fact its Yuen Hsiao Tien using monkey fist against Kwan Tak Hing using drunken fist..theres some oldschool Liondance and often appearances of real life kung fu masters..for example my grand-grandmaster Lau Jaam (see my avatar),Lau Kar leung is in many episodes as a stuntman/extra,the real wife of Wong Fei Hung,Mok Gwai Lam is performing some hung fist in one episode (this is also on utube)..its definitely interesting to watch specially if u interested in cma..cos they always had kung fu masters as guests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Sifu Posted December 11, 2007 Author Member Share Posted December 11, 2007 the fights are interesting as u can see already early stages of drunkenfist (who said jackie invented that?) Nobody ever says that! Drunken Fist or "Zuì Quan" has been around for hundreds of years. Thanks for the info though, I found some of the vids. It's interesting to see how fight choreography has evolved since then. Still, this kind of stuff was groundbreaking for it's time! I just don't know why they're still in B&W. The audio's too low, but the fighting is fun to watch. GOD, I WISH I COULD FIND THESE ON DVD!! I'm really enjoying watchin these sequences, they're well arranged. Wong Fei Hung Combats the 5 Wolves (1969) PewH0fFiO5E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member FrankBolte Posted December 11, 2007 Member Share Posted December 11, 2007 Nobody ever says that! Drunken Fist or "Zuì Quan" has been around for hundreds of years. well, I know that..as a matter of fact I teach Hung Kuen..anyway what I meant is that I read an interview somewhere where they claim that they invented drunkenfist for the movies..cant remember where though..actually lots of things have been copied from the old B/W series specialli in Once upon a time in china.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Sifu Posted December 11, 2007 Author Member Share Posted December 11, 2007 actually lots of things have been copied from the old B/W series specialli in Once upon a time in china.. Well yeah, think about it, they were doing Kung Fu flicks when Kung Fu movies weren't even popular in HK cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Linn1 Posted December 11, 2007 Member Share Posted December 11, 2007 the Wong Fei Hung films were the source of nearly everything we've seen in kung fu films over the years. The young master who learns kung fu to defeat someone who killed his master, using everyday things as weapons, Chinese vs. Japanese, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member reason108 Posted December 11, 2007 Member Share Posted December 11, 2007 I thought that one of these films was available on vcd at yesasia or dddhouse. But, it may have been a few years back that I saw it; or, it could just be my memory playing tricks on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member dragonherb Posted December 11, 2007 Member Share Posted December 11, 2007 Was it this one?.. http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx?pid=1000007787§ion=videos&did=106&code=c& Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Sifu Posted December 12, 2007 Author Member Share Posted December 12, 2007 Was it this one?.. http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx?pid=1000007787§ion=videos&did=106&code=c& Cool..............................and of course it's out of stock. I'm gonna look into these VCDs a little more and maybe I'll find 'em on another site. Doubt it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member dbmaster514 Posted April 15, 2008 Member Share Posted April 15, 2008 That is the only Wong Fei Hung I have been able to find the only thing I have from pre-60s HK film. Would love to get a hold of some of those TV sources, I've heard about them and tried to get a few people in HK to record them for me but nothing ever turned up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member The Amazing Psycho Per Posted April 15, 2008 Member Share Posted April 15, 2008 Wong Fei Hung Combats the 5 Wolves (1969) LOL... The Choreography is better then in the Shaws from the same period... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Sifu Posted April 16, 2008 Author Member Share Posted April 16, 2008 LOL... The Choreography is better then in the Shaws from the same period... Hmm, that's true IN GENERAL. Because Chang Cheh's choreography at the time was top notch, and he wasn't surpassed at the time, but then again that's only him. The majority weren't even in their league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member FrankBolte Posted April 25, 2008 Member Share Posted April 25, 2008 Hmm, that's true IN GENERAL. Because Chang Cheh's choreography at the time was top notch, and he wasn't surpassed at the time, but then again that's only him. The majority weren't even in the league. I think he meant it the other way around..that the choreography was better than in the early shaw movies.. Chang Cheh did Choreograph:confused:..thought he only directed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member SamuraiDana Posted May 21, 2008 Member Share Posted May 21, 2008 I found a VCD of one of the b&w Wong Fei Hung films (unsubtitled, of course) in a Chinatown VCD bin. I believe it's HOW WONG FEI-HUNG PITTED 7 LIONS AGAINST A DRAGON (1956), although I don't recall the process by which I figured that out. I don't have it handy, so I can't tell you what company released it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Sifu Posted May 21, 2008 Author Member Share Posted May 21, 2008 I don't have it handy, so I can't tell you what company released it. Ooh! Catch a quick pic of both sides of it if possible. That'd be interesting to look at. Was it cheap? Because they're near impossible to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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