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Guest Hermeskungfu

I posted below about Shaolin Chastity Kung Fu and how much I enjoyed it. So I posted the trailer on YouTube that came on my dvd. It was strange anyway in that it ended abruptly but the dilemma was that in the training scenes it contains a topless 7 /8 year old (guessing) girl. I have posted a couple of Ninja trailers that contain full female nudity but children are a very sensitive subject here in the UK (and I guess other countries). What seems to have been quite acceptable in a 1981 film is no longer accepted here in 2007. So I edited a few seconds out of the trailer. I'll have to do the same if I post the training scenes. Showing children bloodily killing villians is probably okay but showing a (flat chested) girl child I guess could get me pulled from YouTube. Funny old world we have created.

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Guest Morgoth

You did a good thing by editing it out. CHild pornography is a serious issue these days, and for good reason. Of course Shaolin Chastity does not have pornography, but having a little girl nude is something that should not be shown. I remember a movie called Pistol Opera had child nudity and I had to turn the movie off after seeing that. There is a big difference between the nudity in SHaolin Chastity and Pistol Opera, but it is still chld nudity.

and youtube does not allow nudity. You should delete those ninja trailers because if somebody reports you, you will have all of your videos removed. Youtube doesn't even look into it, they will just delete your videos. You can report somebody for anything on youtube and that user's clips will be deleted. That is just the way youtube is. I love your clips Hermeskungfu, and I don't want to see them get deleted. You probably know me as the guy who comments on a lot of your clips.

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*sigh*

Yep, we live in quite a hysterical age... I mean - a topless 8-year-old girl is a perfectly normal thing. For pity's sake...

But I agree that you can't be careful enough. Some people tend to get offended at the slightest provocation (as if there was anything obscene or pathological about a nude kid). I do not advocate pedophilia, I just hate this paranoia and hysteria. Nude kids are not the problem. People who find the sight of nude kids arousing (or disturbing) are.

As far as political correctness and sex are concerned, this civilization suffers from a severe case of dementia (and inconsistency) - and all that you can do is trying to play along...:rolleyes:

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nice job of editing it out some people's only purpose on the internet is to mess with people because they're disgruntled with their own sad lives and they'd like nothing more then to see a reason to try to get somebody caught up

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Guest kungfood

Yup, it's unfortunate that such a thing is seen in that way, but I guess it may also catch the eye of some pedophiles. Back when I saw the film in '83, I remembered the nude or topless little girl, and never thought twice about it.

The film still stands out as one of the more odd ones in the genre.

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We're fortunate to be able to enjoy our Kung Fu movies... At some point THEY may be targeted. For a time in the early days in certain parts of the world they were. It is something to be mindful of; censorship...

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Guest Markgway

There's nothing inherently illegal about showing images of a topless young girl as long as they're shown in a non-sexual context. That's the key. If she was training in Kung Fu I can't imagine anyone would find that objectionable. Think nudism for an equivilent.

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Changing films. In the long end fight for Heroes Two (I love the Tibetan red robed fighters!) the screen goes red when it gets particularly bloody. I have read that this was to appease the censors but in other parts of the film (as in most Chang Cheh films) the blood seems pretty gory to me. Anyone know any more about this ?

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I always thought it was a cinematic technique, I think that technique or something similar was used in a British(?) horror movie that pre-dated Heroes Two by a year or two. I think it was called Terror (or Horror) in the Wax Museum, or some-such title; before a victim was murdered by the killer, the screen would go red. Chang Cheh used a red screen, a red flash of the screen, or even a black-and-white screen. This was copied by Tarantino in Kill Bill 1.

I suppose it could have been used to prepare the audience for what was to come, but to me, it created a dramatic, powerful effect. It added impact to the scene that might have been lessened otherwise. It's also done in at least two more Chang Cheh films I can mention at this moment: Shaolin Martial Arts and Men From the Monastery, and usually but not always, signifying the death of an important character (hero, villain, or both).

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On 11/21/2007 at 3:05 PM, Guest Hermeskungfu said:

Changing films. In the long end fight for Heroes Two (I love the Tibetan red robed fighters!) the screen goes red when it gets particularly bloody. I have read that this was to appease the censors but in other parts of the film (as in most Chang Cheh films) the blood seems pretty gory to me.

I'm reminded of what happened in Abel Ferrara's The Driller Killer.

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