Guest HAZ74 Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Hi Dudes! Got a quick question for y'all - is it worth picking up the dutch VHS of Kid With The Golden Arm? I can get it for 20 bones. Is the picture quality half way decent? I like subs better than dubs, but I can live with it. I just want to see the best version available. Is this supposed to be released by IVL in december? I never know what those guys are putting out. Thanks for any help. peace HAZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sevenhooks Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 HAZ, ILV/Celestial had originally slated KWTGA to be released this December but it's apparently now pushed back. To when is anybody's guess. I don't know what the best version out there is. Perhaps somebody else can help you with that. Not familiar with the Dutch version. However I'd be cautious since I know that at least one of the Euro releases was VERY heavily cut. I mean BAD. I think that's the version that wound up on the US bootleg Ground Zero DVD. Wish I still had my broadcast tape from the 80's when I taped it off of Channel 23 in Albany. They showed it nearly uncut that one time. After that whenever it played on tv it seemed to be cut more and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Linn1 Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 the DVD is FOR SURE coming from IVL unless there's a famine or something. Just wait for the US disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BKarza Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 There's the tv(edited by Larry Bensky) version. That's the longest. It doesn't have a few "Chang Cheh" type spurts of blood to make it uncut/unedited. The Ground Zero version is simply the german print with a manual eng dub overlay. It is a very good, colorful print that is 2:35:1. It is very cut but not the action. I have both. You never know when the bloody hell Celestial will release it, so I say go out get whatever version you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HAZ74 Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Or wait for the US disc. So Image will be putting this out? I know release dates are always in flux, but is there a timetable for this? Also, what is the correct running time for KWTGA? I'll see if I can get some info from the seller. Thanks h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kungfusamurai Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 That longer version was put out by Beverly Wilshire, in case anyone was wondering. I think it was full screen. KFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest venomsfreak Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 The Beverly Wilshire version is horrible. It is missing most of the fight scenes, and has an awful grainy full screen picture. The Ground Zero version is missing alot of the dialogue, but the violence is intact and it has a much better print. One of the guys on here (I'm sorry I forget your name) put both copies together on one disc to make a complete (if somewhat uneven) version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaolin Patriot Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Or wait for the US disc Linn1, would you care to elaborate more at this time? Can you reveal any small morsel of information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mr HKmovie Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 The Dutch video is the same as the tv (edited by Larry Bensky) version. Good picture quality though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Linn1 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Linn1, would you care to elaborate more at this time? ...it's not coming from Image.:hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HAZ74 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 The Dutch video is the same as the tv (edited by Larry Bensky) version. Good picture quality though. Is the TV version the same as Beverly Wilshire mentioned above? Are there any fights that are cut out? Thanks for all the responces so far! You doods are Movie Sifus! Peace h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HAZ74 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 ...it's not coming from Image. The plot thickens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sevenhooks Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 ...it's not coming from Image. Dragon Dynasty then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member magicpoe Posted November 10, 2006 Member Share Posted November 10, 2006 I would be the forum member here that created a more complete movie using the Beverly Wilshire version and the Ground Zero version. Basically, I took the WS Ground Zero version and added the missing footage that was included in the Beverly Wilshire version back into it. Let me guess, is Dragon Dynasty releasing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sevenhooks Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Hey Linn, Regardless whether or not it's Dragon Dynasty releasing this, do you know if they're going to release these with the orig. eng. dubs or not? I know the initial word was that Miramax had not opted to buy the dubs but I'm wondering since so much time has passed and since there's been one or two actually somewhat knowledgable folks hired to consult (not to mention companies changing hands), has there been any change in policy re: the dubs that you know of? Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest venomsfreak Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 I would be the forum member here that created a more complete movie And you did a good job Magicpoe, thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HAZ74 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Hi I just checked the dutch tape & running time in PAL is 82 minutes. This looks longer than the 78 minute version put out by ground zero. I know there's a difference between PAL & NTSC running times. What would 82 minutes be in PAL? Thanks again, HAZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Linn1 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 say something about Dragon Dynasty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chinatown Kid Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Then maybe George(I make crappy DVD's)Tan and his Video Asia? Lord help us if that's the case! :rollin Joking aside, maybe Crash? Or maybe a company we've never heard of? Man, this suspense is killing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HAZ74 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Its gotta be crash since they're starting something called "Crash Masters", a series of remastered, old school flicks. Thanks for all the advice & info on "Kid with the golden arm!" I'm going to buy the tape & transfer it to DVD. I'll let everyone know how that goes. peace h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shawbros Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 It is a very good, colorful print that is 2:35:1 I have this tape it's not 2.35, it's cropped (approx 1.85) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BKarza Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Wrong, I just checked. I was watching Chinatown Kid earlier. That's 2:35:1. I checked KwtGA against it. It's exactly the same. 2:35:1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dragon herb Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I watched a couple of minutes of this movie today, but I don't know which version I've got. I hope someone knows and can confirm which it is. It starts ugly cropped fullscreen when it's a intro, than when the english credits follows the picture is fullscreen but the window minimized into some sort of smaller square or how I should explain it. Therafter it becomes normally fullscreen. I haven't watched the whole movie, only a few minutes as said, but I hope it will remain "normal" fullscreen. Dunno the runtime yet either because my VCR counts the minutes very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iron Boat Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 ........................nonsense................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member bobo Posted November 12, 2006 Member Share Posted November 12, 2006 i,ve got two versions of this movie. the GROUND ZERO which clocks in at 1 hr 15 min. the version i taped off tv clocks in at 1 hr 25 min --thats minus the commercials . the tv version has the missing dialouge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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