Member magicpoe Posted May 4, 2007 Member Share Posted May 4, 2007 The year I've always seen associated with this film is 1979. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CLFNole Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 So wouldn't this have been after Five Venoms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member magicpoe Posted May 4, 2007 Member Share Posted May 4, 2007 The release date I've always seen for Five Venoms is 1978. The Venoms look quite young in Life Gamble and Fu Sheng has the same look he did in Brave Archer. By that I mean he hasn't put on the extra weight that we see in Brave Archer 3 and Heroes Shed No Tears. Even though the release date is 1979 for Life Gamble I think maybe it was something that had been worked on earlier while filming other movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teako170 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Let me see if I can clarify. Production dates and release dates are two different animals and while Life Gamble was released after 5 Venoms, it certainly doesn't mean it was produced after 5 Venoms. Actually, just the opposite is true here. Release wise it goes... Five Venoms: 8/12/78 Life Gamble: 2/22/79 The Lee Yi Min factor... Life Gamble was shot near the end of 1977 because Lee Yi Min has vacated the Shaw lot as of early 1978. The first two BA films were done pretty close together (if not back to back) but don't let the release dates of BA 2 {5/13/78} or Heaven & Hell {1/19/80}, in which Lee Yi Min appears, fool you. Also, take note of those Southern Screen scans I posted. The tout KC and LM as "newcomers." While they each had cameo/small roles prior, this production gave them leading roles. Soon after, the film C-Kid came along which would lead to The 5 Venoms production. I've always found it odd that the actual productions dates have not surfaced for many of these films. SB is a company and every company maintains records. Just what was ol' Mona doing with all her time? Certainly not keeping good files it appears. :rollin Teako, you mentionned 5 rare venoms movies. Beside Life gamble and House of traps what are the other 3? Those 3 would be Ode to Gallantry, Legend of a Fox, SSWRB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest morgoth Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CLFNole Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 That makes sense. Marco Polo was done before this right? It would have been KC 1st good role, not a main hero but at least one of the four heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest venomchamber Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 Sun Chien was initially recruited by Chang Cheh in Taiwan to appear in The Chinatown Kid. He was then cast in Heaven And Hell followed by The Brave Archer Part 2 which also introduced Wei Pai in a brief cameo appearance, all prior to Five Venoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Amazing Psychoper Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 Magicpoe you spoiled the movie for me! It looks rather dull... I hope those 2 clips are'nt to representative of the movie, it looks so slow! The Amazing Psycho Per :evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VonHumboldtFleischer Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 I hope those 2 clips are'nt to representative of the movie, it looks so slow! Come on, it's a tease, a hint. When they bring the hors d'ouvres, do you ask the waiter "Hey, is all the food this small?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Amazing Psychoper Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 No but when the hors-d'oeuvres tastes bad, I don't expect much from the main course. Seriously though, I just think it's hard to get excited about this movie judging by those clips, but thanks for posting them anyway. The Amazing Psycho Per :evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iron flag Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 It wouldn't shock me if it sucked. There are some boring Venoms movies (Brave Archer series, Ode to Gallantry) |I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BKarza Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 There isn't a lot of action. This is not a chop socky indie flick. It's character, motivation and situation based. It's bloody cool as hell but it's not action based. Maybe a tad more, or on the same level action quantity wise as 5V. One of my favorite CC movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member magicpoe Posted May 5, 2007 Member Share Posted May 5, 2007 The clips were only to show how difficult it could be to watch the old boots that some of us have in our collections. My intention was not to attempt to "sell" this movie for anyone or show any particular scene of action. I probably should have stated that when posting the clips. But there's enough action and typical Chang Cheh style of movie making in this film to warrant buy the Celestial version when it's released. At least in my opinion there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest venomchamber Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 HIDDEN HERO is a remake of LIFE GAMBLE and starts the same way, so it would seem the only thing missing is the opening credits, which I will guess may resemble the opening to FLAG OF IRON. The HIDDEN HERO opening titles sequence reminds me of THE RETURN OF THE ONE-ARMED SWORDSMAN with the cast displaying their weapons against a black background. Only time will tell...only 3 months left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tosh Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 There are some boring Venoms movies (Brave Archer series, Ode to Gallantry) Oh man, you didn't like Ode? I thought there was some great fights in this one, then again I'm a big Kuo Chui fan. Thanks for the clips Magicpoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VonHumboldtFleischer Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 The clips were only to show how difficult it could be to watch the old boots that some of us have in our collections. Hey, those clips really weren't so bad. You should see my cam print. Actually, you shouldn't. It'll give you a huge migraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest daTOAD Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 all expecting super choreo fights will be dissapointed. this is a kung fu Spaghetti Western. yeah most kung fu movies were born out of the Spaghetti Western blueprint, but this IS a "Western". down to the weapons[instead of guns its flying darts]. the story i felt was excellent.cool characters[gunmen]. one of Chang Cheh's best. like 5 Venoms, the movie transcends the typical genre film. one of my favorite Lo Mang Characters-Killer Knife Mo Chen Fung.up ther with the Toad and Golden Arm[though not kung fu wise]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BKarza Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Agreed. Lo Mang's MCF is cool as hell. He's got the hair and the knives and that special knife. CC did hook him up with some of the best/coolest characters ever throughout all kung fu movies. You'll also notice the hair going up in slo motion(Wang Lung Wei) that CC would use with Lo Mang's Toad in 5V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest morgoth Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Thanks for posting the clip Magicpoe. Looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 5th Yang Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I cant wait to get my hands on Life Gamble....bring it baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member magicpoe Posted July 4, 2007 Member Share Posted July 4, 2007 One more clip. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXAKnEb02dw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest morgoth Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avenging eagle Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 MP...you are the man. Still can't remember but I'll wait till it comes out. AE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tigerstyles Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 just sat through this drivel only to be rewarded with a great end scrap with Li I Min v Kwok Choi weilding double Chuks... WTF i never heard of this fight scene.. films a bit weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldeschool17 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 different strokes for different folks. Although my wife laughed her ass off when she saw Lo Meng's horrid wig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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