Rank the Venoms and their styles from 5 Deadly Venoms

[Guest falkor]

1) Wei Pai's Snake

2) Lu Feng's Centipede

3) Lo Mang's Frog

4) Sun Chien's Scorpion

5) Kuo Chui and Chiang Sheng's Gecko

[Guest Chinatown Kid]

1. Toad

2. Scorpion

3. Centipede

4. Lizard

5. Snake

[Guest falkor]

You rank Wei Pai's performance last... Surprised you liked Toad the best... I see you wasn't too impressed with Gecko, either. I think Chiang Sheng was a bit lazy just using that...

[Guest Chinatown Kid]

Well actually I like The Scorpion the best but admit I'm biased because I'm a TKD stylist. I ranked them that way because that's how they seemed to be portrayed in the film, from the most powerful to the least powerful. The Gecko style just didn't seem too deadly with the gimmick of climbing up walls and The Snake probably should have ranked 4 instead of 5 but I prefer Kuo Chui over Wei Pei and think he's more talented.

[Guest falkor]

And after analysing the fight scenes, I've actually changed my mind about the rankings:

1) Centipede

2) Scorpion

3) Snake

4) Toad

5) Lizard

[Guest Chinatown Kid]

Yeah the Centipede was damn fast, but the Toad seemed pretty much invincible and couldn't be defeated till the Scorpion found his weak spot. That's why I put him #1.

[Guest CLFNole]

Not sure why everyone puts the scorpion so high, afterall he as zero hand ability. Yeah he could kick well but he needed to use hidden weapons to compensate for lack of kuen faht. He also goes down pretty quick to the lizard in the end.

[Guest Chinatown Kid]

Well you know why I rank him high Nole.

Didn't the Snake sneak up behind the Scorpion and stick his fingers in his guts? Seems like the lizard and the Hybrid Venom Chaing Sheng double teamed up on the Scorpion after that and finished him off. Anyways, your right Sun Chien's hand skills were practically non-existant and his character went down just like the Centipede in the finale, but damn that Scorpion sure was sneaky!

[Guest CLFNole]

Chinatown Kid: Yes I do know why you like him.

While I like Sun Chien he had limited utility since he lacks both fist skills and weapons skills. But he could definately kick well. My fav role of his in Crippled Avengers and Invincible Shaolin.

I have never liked Wei Pei in any of the venoms movies.

[Guest killer meteor]

1. Toad.

2. Scorpion

3. Lizard

4. Centipede

5. Snake

[Guest pressureworld]

1. Centipede

2. Snake

3. Lizard

4. Toad

5. Scorpion

[Guest Cesare]

I am new to the genre and I know *very little* about martial arts. To me it's mainly about the characters themselves.

OK - here we go:

1 - Snake. Forgive me, folks, but I actually do like Wei Pai. Especially in 5 Deadly Venoms. The character was interesting and IMHO well acted out. The fighting style was - how would I put it - stylish...;-) And although Wei Pai may not fool more experienced viewers, he seemed deadly enough to me in this particular role - not to mention I liked Snake's flashy image...;-) Classy villain, my cup of tea...;-)

2 - Toad. The style itself may not be that interesting, but Lo Meng made it look awesome. Lo Meng in general is one of my fave Venoms - and moreover, Toad was a very likeable guy. Someone you'd like to share a drink and a story with...:-)

3-4 - Scorpion. Simply because he more or less outwitted them all. And those kicks were really impressive.

3-4 - Lizard. I was not that much into this wall-climbing stuff, but Lizard on my list ranks the same as Scorpion. Lizard may be your more or less standard good guy, not the most interesting character in the whole bunch - but Kuo Chui is quite a charismatic actor and he made the Lizard probably the easiest character to identify with...

5 - Centipede. I almost feel bad for ranking Centipede so low... Because I really think Lu Feng was brilliant... It's just that I cared for this particular character the least...

Damn, that was lengthy.

An old thread, I know - but I couldn't resist...:-)

[Guest Chen Zhen]

1 - Snake

2 - Lizard

3 - Toad

4 - Centipede

5 - Scorpion

[Guest stormybman]

This is how I break it down. Like a fighter preparing for a match you need to assess the opponent's strengths and weaknesses, and how effective/dangerous they are as far as the threat for your ability to have any success against them...

1. Toad

2.Centipede

3.Snake

4.Lizard

5.Scorpion

The rankings I selected have a great deal to do with effectiveness when fighting...

It's hard to compete with the Toad with his inpenetrable

skin and the strength he has.

The unmatchable speed of Centipede ranks him a close second, however, the way to defeat speed is to " close the gap " , and utilize strength /power. Fatigue will wear on speed.

The Snake's effectiveness in close proximity allocates danger for any foe...

The Lizard's agility will go a long way to preserve one's safety in battle, with evasiveness...

With little or no other usage besides trickery, the Scorpion is limited and if the leg(s) is/are wounded, he is severely hampered, and at the greatest disadvantage. It would be advisable for the Scorpion to take a second skill to compensate for the limits of kicking. Possibly Snake to be effective with hand and foot. 8)

"Will you tell me what Teacher died of?..."

[Guest sikmao]

here's my list:

1. Kuo Chui - the Lizard

2. Lu Feng - Centipede

3. Lo Meng - Toad

4. Sun Chien - Scorpion

5. Wei Pai - Snake

my reasoning is that Kuo, Lu & Chiang do most of the choreography, for their fight scenes. Kuo is also the "senior", when it comes to skill level, i believe. then it's Lu, Chiang & Lo, from what i've heard.

Kuo just has the action so TIGHT, it's incredible!! plus, he's a pretty good actor, imho. whereas, Lu has some great moves, but i don't think he's as good an actor. same with Chiang Sheng & Lo Meng, (actually, i like both their acting abilities!). Sun Chien is only 'okay' in my book! while i REALLY don't like Wei Pai!!! i think he's the worst of the bunch, on ALL LEVELS!!! he can't act & he can't fight, imo, @ least not like any of those other cats!!

on second thought, i'd put Lo up there with Lu. Lo's got skill & acting ability!

well, there you have it.

[Guest Soda drink]

1. Toad

2. Centipede

3. Scorpion

4. Gecko/Lizard

5. Snake

Toad -- Seriously nobody would have been able to take him down one-on-one or even against two.

I mean his only weakness was his ears, so all Toad had to worry about was guarding his ears while his opponents had to worry about their entire body, lol. A major psychological advantage...

Centipede -- His style is the most dangerous in my opinion. Those centipede burst attacks would drop an elephant.

Scorpion -- One kick from him sent Centipede out the door and out for a good while. And he literally left his footprint in Snake's forehead.

Luckily, Chiang Sheng's character trained under the Toad style or else his head would have been a crushed melon when Scorpion hit him with that flying sidekick.

Lizard -- I guess it was best for an evasive and a defensive fight but Lizard did not have the one hitter-quitter like the other venoms.

Snake -- His style is tricky but way too stylized to be effective against the others. I am convinced that if Snake and Scorpion went one-on-one, Scorpion would win 8 out of 10 times. It seemed like he always needed backup and was Centipede's bitch. lol.

[Eastern Evil]

I hope there are some Venoms here that will like this.

Here are my rankings for favorite Venoms styles for this movie.

(Hope the lyrics help. )

Favorite

#3. Scorpion

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Kick the tail of death, you're the Scorpion.

Speak your tale of death, oh great Scorpion.

With your venom strong, you're outnumbered four to one.

Within this disguise, they don't even know my name

and which side I'm on, they're confused just the same.

Friendly or enemy, a fierce killer I am trained

crippled by a secret, and a chance of wealth and fame.

I work alone. Once an evil deed is done, then it never ends.

It goes on, and it goes on forever.

Thunder. Lightning strikes to the ground like the Scorpion.

Sting and strike, hiding in the night, he's the Scorpion.

Death Venom, inject it, you'll die by the Scorpion.

Sting and strike, hiding in the night, he's the Scorpion.

Your Poison!

Kick the tail of death, you're the Scorpion.

Fight when you can't hide like a scorpion.

[Eastern Evil]

2nd Favorite

#4 - The Lizard

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Master, teach me skills of war and trickery.

Your philosophy, my life is a part of it.

Disciplined disciple of your wizardry,

it's your will for me, my life is a part of it.

Master teach me skills of war and trickery,

I will dedicate my soul, my life is a part of it.

If you feel my soul is real and I will be victorious, but all for the good of man,

take me in, my life is a part of it.

Prepare me with techniques and great bravery,

wipe away my fears, my life is a part of it.

Grant me powers inhuman, incredible.

I promise to you, my life is a part of it.

Master teach me skills of war and trickery,

I will dedicate my soul, my life is a part of it.

If you feel my soul is real and I will be victorious, but all for the good of man,

take me in, my life is a part of it.

Scaling up the walls,

caution on the air,

focus on the kill,

minimize the ground.

Lizard do not fall,

keep this battle fair,

utilize your skill,

whip your tail around.

Skills do not matter, your loyalties prevail.

Nothing can break.

Outside your scales, your destiny is death.

Lizard, breath, fight!

Thank you, we thank you.

You've held your head so high.

Remember Li Ho!

Scaling up the walls,

caution on the air,

focus on the kill,

minimize the ground.

Lizard do not fall,

keep this battle fair,

utilize your skill,

whip your tail around.

Use your venom well!

[Eastern Evil]

3rd Favorite

#2 - The Snake

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Wait for the signal to charge with a venomous bite.

Release your powerful death, (death) is not an excuse to stop.

You stood your ground so well, but with one bite you fell.

Suffering can wait (I'm on to you).

Embrace the great snake.

Faith, hope, love is lost. Soul dissolves with lust.

Wait for the signal to charge with a venomous bite.

Release your powerful death!

You must stand your ground. You must not break down.

Think what could be gone with such strong venom.

You stood your ground so well, but with one bite you fell.

Fast ground attack. You won't be coming back.

Your battle's over... enjoy the poison.

I'm on to you... (you must stand your ground)

I'm right behind you... (you must not break down)

[Eastern Evil]

4th Favorite

#5 - The Toad

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The life-cycle ends here,

innocent without fear.

A trust that was just broke,

the toad will soon croak.

Everything is growing dark, justice has turned its head.

Behind the masked face you were... my friend.

I stand my ground, these hands are clean.

The burden of betrayal crawls on his belly.

FIGHT!

Fear not steel, nor point, nor blade

over my skin which would not break.

But, I felt the embrace of 1000 legs

and the stinging kiss of the snake.

My life cycle ends here.

A new venom will appear.

[Eastern Evil]

5th Favorite

#1 - The Centipede

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Feel this touch and you will scream

as your organs inside start to bleed

and as you fall you will hear my laugh

cause my handprint brands an epitaph.

With a strike so fast that you are dead

they say it feels just like a hundred legs

so line them up, I'll give them what they've earned

if they refuse what I've come to learn.

"You've got it".

The ground hits your back with a centipede attack

one hundred scars you'll show after centipede lets go.

Money from the poison clan, I will claim it with another hand

since my greed is shared with number two,

confrontation speaks the words "I'm on to you".

(you) can help, let's make this smooth

use your sword and skills to prove, "I'm right behind you".

I'm number one, I'm your boss, get the money and let's run.

"You've got it".

Your life won't come back after centipede attack.

The floor collects your bones after centipede lets go.

Look at the centipede as he crawls around on the ground,

moving in darkness, his legs find prey without a sound.

Look at the centipede. Look at the centipede as he moves without a sound.

Look at the centipede as he moves around underground

moving in darkness his legs find prey without a sound.

With one hundred legs you will lose this fight

and my slithering friend bites.

Guilty, but let go. We must find someone to take the blame.

So, let's blame the toad for MURDER!

The ground hits your back with a centipede attack.

A fatal wound you will shot when the centipede lets go.

Feel this touch and you will scream

as your organs inside start to bleed

and as you fall you will hear my laugh

cause my handprint brands an epitaph.

Murder charge I won't confess

and a bribe takes the pressure off my chest.

I'm number one, scholastic enemy.

Taste the venom of the centipede.

You've got it.

[RogueWarrior]

great music!! Thanks for sharing!!!

[teako170]

great music!! Thanks for sharing!!!

Had never heard of these guys, so I googled them. Found their website:

http://www.shaolindeathsquad.com/

Not sure I understand why they call themselves "shaolin" and then have a pic with the Rising Sun Flag? Anyway, thanks for bringing them to our attention. Will delve deeper into their music. Maybe someone on FB can invite them to the board.

[Eastern Evil]

Had never heard of these guys, so I googled them. Found their website:

http://www.shaolindeathsquad.com/

Not sure I understand why they call themselves "shaolin" and then have a pic with the Rising Sun Flag? Anyway, thanks for bringing them to our attention. Will delve deeper into their music. Maybe someone on FB can invite them to the board.

I can't speak for the flag, but I can say that there isn't a note or a stitch of music on that album that isn't spectacular.

Just my opinion, but anyone that loves The Venoms & music of this style should give it a shot.

[Eastern Evil]

great music!! Thanks for sharing!!!

You know I have to get it out there