The Offical Shaws Dub Thread

[Guest gfanikf]

Very fun Beardy flick (complete with random nudity and fun canto pop) wondering if it was ever dubbed by the Shaws for export.

Actually does anyone have a list of Shaw flicks that were dubbed and which weren't

[Guest sevenhooks]

Not sure about that one.

There was a list going around a few years back that apparently named all films that were dubbed in english by the Shaws.

Not sure how valid that list was though.

I seem to remember some people on this very board disputing it's validity.

I know they were dubbing their films up until the very end so it's possible that Secret Service was dubbed.

(I say that since I remember seeing a Shaw catalog which listed some films available like Young Vagabond & Opium & The Kung Fu Master. Both of which were, according to the catalog, available in english dubbed versions).

[Linn1]

every kung fu film and swordplay film was SUPPOSEDLY dubbed for export, not just to the US, but other coutries in English. Having said that, I can tell you for a FACT that the Shaws did NOT hold on to most of the dubs. Please remember, to do so would mean that all the different dubbed (not just English) versions would have had to be stored along with the native soundtracks. Meaning it would have been an unheard of bit of storage for an Asian film studio of that time.

And Seven, you saw a pretty rare list there. Young Vagabond, Opium & The Kung Fu Master, Spiritual Boxer, Eagle Swordsman, and others were dubbed for the final run of Black Belt Theater. The "set" stopped airing about 25% through when their contract ran out with the Shaws with Shaolin Intruders escaping before the axe fell. The existing dubbed prints were stolen and in the hands of some World Northal people, including a few "lost" dubs. At this point, they are most likely really lost as the people got rid of them long ago via selling to collectors or they are setting in someones basement.

[Guest gfanikf]

So is there any chance someone saved that list?

Thanks for the info Linn

[Linn1]

Here's the list Jumper did a while back. I will say, I don't know if these were all in fact dubbed. But considering I've seen a bit of Opera dubbed from 1960 or so, I don't count anything out.

YEAR GENRE TITLE

1959 GHOST ENCHANTING SHADOW (B/W)

1959 DRAMA REAR ENTRANCE (B/W)

1960 COMEDY FAIR SEX (B/W)

1961 ROMANCE LOVE WITHOUT END (B/W)

1962 DRAMA SECOND SPRING (B/W)

1963 DRAMA BETWEEN TEARS AND SMILES (B/W)

1964 DRAMA MONKEY GOES WEST

1966 MARTIAL ARTS COME DRINK WITH ME

1967 MARTIAL ARTS TRAIL OF THE BROKEN BLADE

1967 MARTIAL ARTS ONE-ARMED SWORDSMAN

1967 MARTIAL ARTS ASSASSIN

1968 MARTIAL ARTS GOLDEN SWALLOW

1968 MARTIAL ARTS BELLS OF DEATH

1968 MARTIAL ARTS SWORD OF SWORDS

1968 MARTIAL ARTS FLYING DAGGER

1968 MARTIAL ARTS RETURN OF THE ONE-ARMED SWORDSMAN

1969 DRAMA DEAD END

1969 ACTION SINGING KILLER

1969 MARTIAL ARTS VENGEANCE IS A GOLDEN BLADE

1969 MARTIAL ARTS RAW COURAGE

1969 MARTIAL ARTS HAVE SWORD WILL TRAVEL

1970 ACTION SINGING THIEF

1970 MARTIAL ARTS MING DYNASTY

1970 DRAMA VALLEY OF THE FANGS

1970 MARTIAL ARTS HEADS FOR SALE

1970 MARTIAL ARTS VENGEANCE

1970 MARTIAL ARTS HEROIC ONES

1970 MARTIAL ARTS CHINESE BOXER

1971 MARTIAL ARTS LADY HERMIT

1971 MARTIAL ARTS KING EAGLE

1971 MARTIAL ARTS NEW ONE-ARMED SWORDSMAN

1971 MARTIAL ARTS DUEL OF THE IRON FISTS

1971 ACTION LADY PROFESSIONAL

1971 MARTIAL ARTS ANONYMOUS HEROES

1971 ACTION DUEL FOR GOLD

1971 ACTION DUEL OF FISTS

1971 MARTIAL ARTS DEADLY DUO

1971 MARTIAL ARTS KILLER

1972 MARTIAL ARTS ANGRY GUEST

1972 MARTIAL ARTS BOXER FROM SHANTUNG

1972 MARTIAL ARTS 7 BLOWS OF THE DRAGON

1972 DRAMA CASINO

1972 MARTIAL ARTS KING BOXER

1972 MARTIAL ARTS FIST OF VENGEANCE

1972 MARTIAL ARTS 14 AMAZONS

1972 ADULT INTIMATE CONFESSIONS OF A CHINESE

COURTESAN

1972 MARTIAL ARTS DELIGHTFUL FOREST

1972 MARTIAL ARTS TRILOGY OF SWORDSMANSHIP

1972 MARTIAL ARTS THUNDERBOLT FIST

1972 MARTIAL ARTS MAN OF IRON

1972 MARTIAL ARTS LIZARD

1972 ACTION 4 RIDERS

1972 MARTIAL ARTS CHAMPION

1973 YOUNG REBELS

1973 DRAMA STREET GANGS OF HONG KONG

1973 MARTIAL ARTS BLOOD BROTHERS

1973 HORROR KISS OF DEATH

1973 ACTION BASTARD

1973 ACTION POLICE FORCE

1973 ACTION BIG FELLOW

1973 MARTIAL ARTS PIRATE

1973 MARTIAL ARTS IRON BODYGUARD

1973 MARTIAL ARTS MASTER OF KUNG FU

1973 ACTION GAMBLING SYNDICATE

1973 MARTIAL ARTS 7 SOLDIERS OF KUNG FU

1973 MARTIAL ARTS HEROES TWO

1973 DRAMA GENERATION GAP

1973 ADULT BAMBOO HOUSE OF DOLLS

1974 DRAMA DRUG ADDICT

1974 MARTIAL ARTS KILLER SNAKES

1974 MARTIAL ARTS SAVAGE 5

1974 MARTIAL ARTS MEN FROM THE MONASTERY

1974 ACTION BLOODY ESCAPE

1974 MARTIAL ARTS SHAOLIN MARTIAL ARTS

1974 FANTASY NA CHA THE GREAT

1974 MARTIAL ARTS KUNG FU HELLCATS

1974 MARTIAL ARTS FLYING GUILLOTINE

1974 DRAMA QUEEN HUSTLER

1974 MARTIAL ARTS 5 SHAOLIN MASTERS

1975 MARTIAL ARTS BOXER REBELLION

1975 MARTIAL ARTS DISCIPLES OF SHAOLIN

1975 ACTION SUPER INFRAMAN

1975 ADULT BLACK MAGIC

1975 MARTIAL ARTS MARCO POLO

1975 MARTIAL ARTS SPIRITUAL BOXER

1975 MARTIAL ARTS BRUCE LEE & I

1976 MARTIAL ARTS 7 MAN ARMY

1976 ACTION SEXY KILLER

1976 MARTIAL ARTS KILLER CLANS

1976 MARTIAL ARTS INVINCIBLE KUNG FU BROTHERS

1976 MARTIAL ARTS DRAGON MISSILE

1976 MARTIAL ARTS CHALLENGE OF THE MASTERS

1976 KILLER ON WHEELS

1976 MARTIAL ARTS MAGIC BLADE

1976 ADULT BLACK MAGIC 2

1976 MARTIAL ARTS NEW SHAOLIN BOXER

1976 MARTIAL ARTS SHAOLIN TEMPLE

1976 MARTIAL ARTS WEB OF DEATH

1976 MARTIAL ARTS MAGNIFICENT WANDERERS

1976 MARTIAL ARTS EXECUTIONERS FROM SHAOLIN

1976 DRAMA THE CONDEMNED

1977 ACTION LADY EXTERMINATOR

1977 ACTION JUDGEMENT OF AN ASSASSIN

1977 DRAMA FANGS OF THE COBRA

1977 ADULT MYSTERIOUS LADY KILLER

1977 THRILLER DEADLY ANGELS

1977 MARTIAL ARTS NAVAL COMMANDOS

1977 DRAMA MIGHTY PEKING MAN

1977 MARTIAL ARTS FLYING GUILLOTINE 2

1977 MARTIAL ARTS BATTLE WIZARD

1977 MARTIAL ARTS BRAVE ARCHER

1977 MARTIAL ARTS CHINATOWN KID

1977 MARTIAL ARTS 36TH CHAMBER OF SHAOLIN

1978 CRIME CLAN OF AMAZONS

1978 MARTIAL ARTS LIFE COMBAT

1978 MARTIAL ARTS BRAVE ARCHER 2

1978 MARTIAL ARTS SHAOLIN MANTIS

1978 MARTIAL ARTS SHAOLIN HANDLOCK

1978 MARTIAL ARTS LEGEND OF THE BAT

1978 DRAMA GODFATHER'S FURY

1978 MARTIAL ARTS 5 VENOMS

1978 MARTIAL ARTS AVENGING EAGLE

1978 ACTION HEAVEN & HELL

1978 MARTIAL ARTS INVINCIBLE SHAOLIN

1978 MARTIAL ARTS CRIPPLED AVENGERS

1978 MARTIAL ARTS SHAOLIN CHALLENGES NINJA

1979 MARTIAL ARTS FULL MOON SCIMITAR

1979 MARTIAL ARTS DEADLY BREAKING SWORD

1979 MARTIAL ARTS SHAOLIN RESCUERS

1979 MARTIAL ARTS STROKE OF DEATH

1979 MARTIAL ARTS KUNG FU INSTRUCTOR

1979 MARTIAL ARTS DAREDEVILS OF KUNG FU

1979 MARTIAL ARTS SHAOLIN ABBOT

1979 MARTIAL ARTS PROUD TWINS

1979 MARTIAL ARTS DIRTY HO

1979 MARTIAL ARTS 5 SUPER FIGHTERS

1979 MARTIAL ARTS KID WITH THE GOLDEN ARM

1979 MARTIAL ARTS TIGRESS OF SHAOLIN

1979 MARTIAL ARTS MAGNIFICENT RUFFIANS

1979 MARTIAL ARTS MURDER PLOT

1979 MARTIAL ARTS MAD MONKEY KUNG FU

1979 MARTIAL ARTS INVINCIBLE ENFORCER

1979 MARTIAL ARTS FIST OF THE WHITE LOTUS

1980 MARTIAL ARTS KILLER ARMY

1980 MARTIAL ARTS IRON CHAIN ASSASSIN

1980 MARTIAL ARTS KILLER CONSTABLE

1980 MARTIAL ARTS 2 CHAMPIONS OF SHAOLIN

1980 MARTIAL ARTS 3 EVIL MASTERS

1980 ACTION COWARD BASTARD

1980 MARTIAL ARTS KID WITH A TATTOO

1980 MARTIAL ARTS BOXER FROM THE TEMPLE

1980 MARTIAL ARTS 10 TIGERS OF KWANTUNG

1980 MARTIAL ARTS HEROES SHED NO TEARS

1980 MARTIAL ARTS FLAG OF IRON

1980 MARTIAL ARTS RETURN TO THE 36TH CHAMBER

1980 MARTIAL ARTS RETURN OF THE SENTIMENTAL SWORDSMAN

1980 MARTIAL ARTS RENDEZVOUS WITH DEATH

1980 ACTION LOST SOULS

1980 MARTIAL ARTS MY YOUNG AUNTIE

1981 MARTIAL ARTS MARTIAL CLUB

1981 MARTIAL ARTS ROAR OF THE LION

1981 WHAT PRICE HONESTY

1981 MARTIAL ARTS MASKED AVENGERS

1981 MARTIAL ARTS TREASURE HUNTERS

1981 MARTIAL ARTS HOUSE OF TRAPS

1981 DRAMA BLACK LIZARD

1981 MARTIAL ARTS BRAVE ARCHER 3

1981 MARTIAL ARTS PERILS OF THE SENTIMENTAL SWORDSMAN

1982 MARTIAL ARTS LEGENDARY WEAPONS OF KUNG FU

1982 MARTIAL ARTS BRAVE ARCHER AND HIS MATE

1982 MARTIAL ARTS SUPER NINJAS

1982 MARTIAL ARTS KID FROM KWANTUNG

1982 MARTIAL ARTS BUDDHA'S PALM

1982 DRAMA WEIRD MAN

1982 DRAMA MY REBELLIOUS SON

1982 MARTIAL ARTS SHAOLIN PRINCE

1982 HORROR MERCENARIES FROM HONG KONG

1983 MARTIAL ARTS HOLY FLAME OF THE MARTIAL WORLD

1983 MARTIAL ARTS SHAOLIN INTRUDERS

1983 MARTIAL ARTS 8 DIAGRAM POLE FIGHTERS

1984 MARTIAL ARTS OPIUM AND THE KUNG FU MASTER

1984 MARTIAL ARTS DISCIPLES OF THE 36TH CHAMBER

1985 MARTIAL ARTS YOUNG VAGABOND

1985 MARTIAL ARTS MARTIAL ARTS OF SHAOLIN

1993 MARTIAL ARTS BAREFOOTED KID

1997 MARTIAL ARTS HERO

[Guest sevenhooks]

Having said that, I can tell you for a FACT that the Shaws did NOT hold on to most of the dubs. Please remember, to do so would mean that all the different dubbed (not just English) versions would have had to be stored along with the native soundtracks. Meaning it would have been an unheard of bit of storage for an Asian film studio of that time.

Just curious, but why would they hold on to ANY of the dubs if not all of them?

Just trying to make sense of that logic.

I mean, what you're saying explains why for some of the Siren releases for example, you have dub tracks and for some you don't.

Invincible Shaolin: DUB

Two Champions of Shaolin: DUB

Magic Blade: DUB

The Master: NO DUB

But the lack of dub of The Master kind of surprised me since I know that one had existed before.

And it's not like the movie was THAT old that it might have suffered more damage than other films (Magic Blade being a few years older than The Master for instance).

Just trying to understand what Shaw's method (if any) there was when it came to storing the dubs.

Why store some & not others?

[Linn1]

as to why their copy of Tiger Boy is dust, and films from 1955 they have look great? The answer is simple, the Shaws didn't know what the hell they were doing. And though I HATE the thought with a passion, I can't truly blame them, as film preservation wasn't even thought of until the mid-'90s in HK and even good prints of films made around that time can't be found! The dubs that survived, survived largely by chance. Which is also why you have a dub for Magic Blade, but not one for The Master and others.

[bobo]

can they not take the english dub off a vhs or dvd-r somehow and use that. i,m sure they must have the best equipment available. afterall i think the english dub of THREE EVIL MASTERS Iis still quite clear.

[Linn1]

and they have. I don't really understand why Siren didn't do that, unless they didn't know or didn't think it was worth it. Also, just to be clear, Celestial still does own all rights to the English dub tracks. Companies wishing to put out Shaw Brothers titles must buy the rights to the original dubs as well (if they want them).

[Guest jumper5836]

Proabably because there are areas where there is not english dub.

They would have had to cut those areas out.

[Guest iron flag]

Or just leave those parts in Chinese. I can think of 2 dubs I have(MOtFG and Avenging Eagle) that have a few parts w/ Chinese, its not that bad.

[Linn1]

and most places I THINK whould have gone that route.

[Guest gfanikf]

Its a shame some of those dubs are lost but I would love to hear the Hungmei Oprea one with the dialogue dubbed and the songs undubbed.

The porno ones must be pretty funny to :rollin

Seriously that listis interesting and leads me to think with some much know on what was dubbed. Do we have info on WHO dubbed it either names or a studio. I mean contracts and pay records must exist (although I doubt the Shaws would share those records).

If anyone could ever get an interview and photos of the any of the legendardy "7 guys and gals who dubbed kung fu" it would be a HUGE coup. Even if you a sub only fan I bet you would still read it.

[Guest sevenhooks]

Theres an interview with one of those original "dub guys" in an older issue of Giant Robot.

Pretty interesting.

[Guest gfanikf]

Cool

Any chance someone could scan it or let me know what issue it was?

[Guest sevenhooks]

If I still have the issue I'll try and scan it later tonight.

[Guest gfanikf]

Thanks man I owe you one

[Guest deliriocaldo]

Here are the 166 titles which were mentioned as available "with english optical track" in an early listing of the 760 Shaw films Celestial acquired:

48* * * * 164009* * * * Monkey Goes West, The

89* * * * 167003* * * * Trail Of The Broken Blade, The

101* * * * 167015* * * * One-armed Swordsman, The

112* * * * 167026* * * * Assassin, The

124* * * * 168006* * * * Golden Swallow

129* * * * 168011* * * * Bells Of Death, The

134* * * * 168016* * * * Sword Of Swords, The

137* * * * 168019* * * * Flying Dagger, The

147* * * * 168029* * * * Return Of The One-armed Swordsman

158* * * * 169009* * * * Vengeance Is A Golden Blade

166* * * * 169018* * * * Raw Courage

181* * * * 169033* * * * Have Sword Will Travel

187* * * * 170002* * * * Valley Of The Fangs

190* * * * 170005* * * * Heads For Sale

193* * * * 170009* * * * Vengeance

204* * * * 170020* * * * Heroic Ones, The

221* * * * 171002* * * * Lady Hermit, The

222* * * * 171003* * * * New One-armed Swordsman, The

225* * * * 171006* * * * Duel, The

234* * * * 171015* * * * Lady Professional, The

239* * * * 171020* * * * Anonymous Heroes, The

240* * * * 171021* * * * Duel For Gold

245* * * * 171026* * * * Duel Of Fist

252* * * * 171034* * * * Deadly Duo, The

253* * * * 171035* * * * Killer, The

258* * * * 172004* * * * Angry Guest, The

259* * * * 172005* * * * Boxer From Shantung

261* * * * 172007* * * * Water Margin, The

262* * * * 172008* * * * Casino, The

264* * * * 172010* * * * King Boxer, The

271* * * * 172017* * * * Fist Of Vengence

275* * * * 172021* * * * 14 Amazons, The

276* * * * 172022* * * * Intimate Confessions of a Chinese Courtesan

279* * * * 172025* * * * Delightful Forest, The

281* * * * 172027* * * * Thunderbolt Fist

282* * * * 172028* * * * Man Of Iron

283* * * * 172029* * * * Lizard, The

286* * * * 172032* * * * Four Riders

287* * * * 172033* * * * Champion

288* * * * 173001* * * * Delinquent, The

292* * * * 173005* * * * Blood Brothers

299* * * * 173012* * * * Kiss Of Death

303* * * * 173016* * * * Bastard, The

304* * * * 173018* * * * Police Force

305* * * * 173019* * * * Big Fellow, The

308* * * * 173022* * * * Pirate, The

312* * * * 173026* * * * Iron Bodyguard

314* * * * 173028* * * * Master Of Kung Fu, The

319* * * * 173033* * * * Gambling Syndicate, The

320* * * * 173034* * * * All Men Are Brothers

324* * * * 173038* * * * Heroes Two

325* * * * 173039* * * * Bamboo House Of Dolls, The

328* * * * 174002* * * * Killer Snakes, The

329* * * * 174003* * * * Savage Five, The

334* * * * 174008* * * * Men From The Monastery

341* * * * 174017* * * * Bloody Escape, The

346* * * * 174024* * * * Shaolin Martial Arts

353* * * * 174031* * * * Na Cha The Great

356* * * * 174034* * * * Five Tough Guys

359* * * * 174037* * * * Flying Guillotine, The

364* * * * 174043* * * * Queen Hustler

366* * * * 174046* * * * Five Shaolin Masters

373* * * * 175004* * * * Boxer Rebellion

382* * * * 175014* * * * Disciples Of Shaolin

387* * * * 175020* * * * Super Inframan

393* * * * 175026* * * * Black Magic

398* * * * 175031* * * * Marco Polo

399* * * * 175032* * * * Spiritual Boxer, The

405* * * * 175038* * * * Bruce Lee And I

409* * * * 176002* * * * Seven Man Army

410* * * * 176003* * * * Sexy Killer, The

414* * * * 176007* * * * Killer Clans

415* * * * 176008* * * * Shaolin Avengers, The

416* * * * 176009* * * * Dragon Missile, The

419* * * * 176012* * * * Challenge Of The Masters

427* * * * 176020* * * * Killers On Wheels

429* * * * 176022* * * * Magic Blade, The

431* * * * 176024* * * * Black Magic Part 2

432* * * * 176025* * * * New Shaolin Boxers, The

439* * * * 176033* * * * Shaolin Temple

441* * * * 176035* * * * Web Of Death

444* * * * 176038* * * * Magnificent Wanderers, The

446* * * * 176040* * * * Executioners From Shaolin

447* * * * 177001* * * * Lady Exterminator

451* * * * 177005* * * * Fangs Of The Cobra

454* * * * 177008* * * * Mysterious Lady Killer, The

455* * * * 177009* * * * Deadly Angels

457* * * * 177011* * * * Naval Commandos, The

458* * * * 177012* * * * Mighty Peking Man, The

462* * * * 177016* * * * Flying Guillotine Part 2

463* * * * 177017* * * * Battle Wizard, The

465* * * * 177019* * * * Brave Archer, The

478* * * * 177032* * * * Chinatown Kid

482* * * * 177036* * * * 36th Chamber Of Shaolin, The

485* * * * 178001* * * * Clan Of Amazons

487* * * * 178003* * * * Life Gamble

494* * * * 178011* * * * Brave Archer Part 2, The

496* * * * 178013* * * * Shaolin Mantis

497* * * * 178014* * * * Shaolin Handlock

498* * * * 178015* * * * Legend Of The Bat

499* * * * 178016* * * * Godfather's Fury

502* * * * 178019* * * * Five Venoms, The

507* * * * 178024* * * * Avenging Eagle, The

514* * * * 178031* * * * Heaven And Hell

515* * * * 178032* * * * Invincible Shaolin

519* * * * 178036* * * * Crippled Avengers

520* * * * 178037* * * * Heroes Of The East

523* * * * 179001* * * * Full Moon Scimitar

526* * * * 179004* * * * Deadly Breaking Sword, The

527* * * * 179005* * * * Shaolin Rescuers

531* * * * 179011* * * * Monkey Kung Fu

536* * * * 179016* * * * Kung-fu Instructor, The

538* * * * 179018* * * * Daredevils, The

539* * * * 179019* * * * Abbot of Shaolin

540* * * * 179020* * * * Proud Twins, The

541* * * * 179021* * * * Dirty Ho

542* * * * 179022* * * * Five Superfighters

543* * * * 179023* * * * Kid With The Golden Arm, The

546* * * * 179026* * * * Tigress Of Shaolin, The

547* * * * 179027* * * * Magnificent Ruffians, The

548* * * * 179028* * * * Mad Monkey Kung Fu

549* * * * 179029* * * * Invincible Enforcer

554* * * * 179034* * * * Clan Of The White Lotus

555* * * * 180001* * * * Rebel Intruders, The

556* * * * 180002* * * * Convict Killer, The

557* * * * 180003* * * * Killer Constable

562* * * * 180008* * * * Two Champions Of Shaolin

563* * * * 180009* * * * Master, The

564* * * * 180010* * * * Coward Bastard

566* * * * 180012* * * * Kid With A Tattoo, The

567* * * * 180013* * * * Boxer From The Temple, The

568* * * * 180014* * * * Ten Tigers Of Kwang Tung

571* * * * 180017* * * * Heroes Shed No Tears

572* * * * 180018* * * * Flag Of Iron, The

573* * * * 180019* * * * Return To The 36TH Chamber

574* * * * 180020* * * * Return Of The Sentimental Swordsman

576* * * * 180022* * * * Rendezvous With Death

582* * * * 180028* * * * Lost Souls

585* * * * 180031* * * * My Young Auntie

588* * * * 181003* * * * Martial Club

589* * * * 181004* * * * Lion VS Lion

593* * * * 181008* * * * What Price Honesty

594* * * * 181009* * * * Masked Avengers

602* * * * 181017* * * * Treasure Hunters, The

610* * * * 181025* * * * House Of Traps

614* * * * 181029* * * * Black Lizard, The

616* * * * 181031* * * * Brave Archer Part 3, The

618* * * * 181033* * * * Perils Of The Sentimental Swordsman

619* * * * 182001* * * * Legendary Weapons Of China

621* * * * 182003* * * * Brave Archer And His Mate

624* * * * 182006* * * * Five Elements Ninjas

634* * * * 182016* * * * Kid From Kwangtung

637* * * * 182019* * * * Buddha's Palm

640* * * * 182022* * * * Weird Man, The

647* * * * 182029* * * * My Rebellious Son

650* * * * 182032* * * * Shaolin Prince

651* * * * 182033* * * * Mercenaries From Hong Kong

661* * * * 183008* * * * Holy Flame Of The Martial World

669* * * * 183016* * * * Shaolin Intruders

677* * * * 183024* * * * 8 Diagram Pole Fighter, The

686* * * * 184009* * * * Opium And The Kung Fu Master

688* * * * 184011* * * * Disciples Of The 36TH Chamber

728* * * * 185021* * * * Young Vagabond, The

729* * * * 485001* * * * Martial Arts Of Shaolin

746* * * * 293001* * * * Bare-Footed Kid, The

756* * * * 197001* * * * Hero

I did a quick cross-check with the other list, and here are the differences:

- all of the b/w films are missing. I think this was a mistake on the list posted above, because Celestial marked their b/w films in a way looking quite similar to the way they marked films with english dubs.

the following films are also missing on celestial's list:

- 1966 MARTIAL ARTS COME DRINK WITH ME

- 1969 DRAMA DEAD END

- 1969 ACTION SINGING KILLER

- 1970 ACTION SINGING THIEF

- 1970 MARTIAL ARTS MING DYNASTY

- 1970 MARTIAL ARTS CHINESE BOXER

- 1971 MARTIAL ARTS KING EAGLE

- 1972 MARTIAL ARTS TRILOGY OF SWORDSMANSHIP

- 1973 YOUNG REBELS

- 1973 DRAMA GENERATION GAP

- 1974 DRAMA DRUG ADDICT

- 1976 DRAMA THE CONDEMNED

- 1977 ACTION JUDGEMENT OF AN ASSASSIN

- 1979 MARTIAL ARTS MURDER PLOT

Some of these films - CHINESE BOXER, for example - definitely were dubbed, so it's up to question whether these dubs are lost or just ommited from this (early) list...

[Guest gfanikf]

Thanks so much for the list.

Odd I guess SS was not dubbed. However the list mentions The Master yet we know Celstial didnt have one for the Siren release.

This Mystery deepens.

[Guest Frank Lakatos]

Hong Kong Godfather was dubbed I heard. Flashlegs Pete Jr. said something about it in the past if I am not mistakened, that he was looking for the dub. But, Hong Kong Godfather is omitted from the dub list. Pursuit of a Killer and This Man is Dangerous are also omitted in the list. Even if they are omitted from the list, could these movies have been dubbed? Most of their movies in the 80's were omitted. Most of these movies had to do with stories in modern Hong kong, which pronbably wasn't as marketable as colorful or kung fu sword movie. Why does this list omit the dubs of the 80's Shaw movies?

Frank

[Guest sevenhooks]

Good question.

To make matters even more confusing, I have it on good account that BASTARD SWORDSMAN was dubbed in english and was part of World Northal's last Black Belt Theater package.

However, that film is not on the list either.

The plot thickens!

[Guest Frank Lakatos]

I give all of my respect and thanks for those that put the lists up again, but I just don't trust them. I have this feeling that the Shaws dubbed all of their movies, because the Shaws always had high standards. The dubs do exist, it's just that non kung fu collectors have them and don't know about us interested Shaw fans. Some may want to sell while others looks at these reels as a part of American television history. That's what those older middle class American film reel collectors would do. The answer is in America this time I think.

Frank

[Guest jumper5836]

I know all these (94) have english dubs, since I have them.

36TH CHAMBER OF SHAOLIN

ANGRY GUEST

AVENGING EAGLE

BAREFOOTED KID

BAMBOO HOUSE OF DOLLS

BATTLE WIZARD

BELLS OF DEATH

BLOOD BROTHERS

BOXER FROM SHANTUNG

BOXER FROM THE TEMPLE

BOXER REBELLION

BRAVE ARCHER

BRAVE ARCHER 2

BRAVE ARCHER 3

BRUCE LEE & I

CHALLENGE OF THE MASTERS

CHINATOWN KID

CHINESE BOXER

CRIPPLED AVENGERS

DAREDEVILS OF KUNG FU

DEADLY DUO

DELIGHTFUL FOREST

DELINQUENTS

DIRTY HO

DISCIPLES OF SHAOLIN

DUEL OF FISTS

DUEL, THE

EIGHT DIAGRAM POLE FIGHTERS

EXECUTIONERS FROM SHAOLIN

FIST OF THE WHITE LOTUS

FIVE SHAOLIN MASTERS

FIVE SUPER FIGHTERS

FIVE VENOMS

FLAG OF IRON

FLYING GUILLOTINE

FLYING GUILLOTINE 2

FOUR RIDERS

HEAVEN AND HELL

HERO

HEROES TWO

HEROIC ONES

INVINCIBLE SHAOLIN

IRON CHAIN ASSASSIN

KID WITH A TATTOO

KID WITH THE GOLDEN ARM

KILLER

KILLER ARMY

KILLER CONSTABLE

KING BOXER

KUNG FU INSTRUCTOR

LEGEND OF THE BAT

LEGENDARY WEAPONS OF KUNG FU

LIFE COMBAT

MAD MONKEY KUNG FU

MAGIC BLADE

MAGNIFICENT RUFFIANS

MAGNIFICENT WANDERERS

MAN OF IRON

MARCO POLO

MARTIAL ARTS OF SHAOLIN

MARTIAL CLUB

MASKED AVENGERS

MASTER OF KUNG FU

MEN FROM THE MONASTERY

MONKEY KUNG FU

MY YOUNG AUNTIE

NA CHA THE GREAT

NAVAL COMMANDOS

NEW ONE-ARMED SWORDSMAN

NEW SHAOLIN BOXER

ONE-ARMED SWORDSMAN

RETURN TO THE 36TH CHAMBER

ROAR OF THE LION

SAVAGE 5

SEVEN BLOWS OF THE DRAGON

SEVEN MAN ARMY

SEVEN SOLDIERS OF KUNG FU

SHAOLIN ABBOT

SHAOLIN CHALLENGES NINJA

SHAOLIN HANDLOCK

SHAOLIN INTRUDERS

SHAOLIN MANTIS

SHAOLIN MARTIAL ARTS

SHAOLIN PRINCE

SHAOLIN RESCUERS

SHAOLIN TEMPLE

SUPER NINJAS

TEN TIGERS OF KWANTUNG

THE SHAOLIN AVENGERS

THREE EVIL MASTERS

TRAIL OF THE BROKEN BLADE

TREASURE HUNTERS

TWO CHAMPIONS OF SHAOLIN

VENGEANCE

Know to have them becuase others have it (4).

LIZARD

WEB OF DEATH

KUNG FU HELLCATS

THUNDERBOLT FIST

Know to have them but only have seen them at one time or have seen clips (9).

14 AMAZONS - english dubbed clips were shown throughout that Celestial-produced Shaw Brothers documentary

The Champion

DEADLY BREAKING SWORD - It was among the titles anounced for the last Black Belt Theater

DISCIPLES OF THE 36TH CHAMBER - It was among the titles anounced for the last Black Belt Theater

OPIUM AND THE KUNG FU MASTER - It was among the titles anounced for the last Black Belt Theater

Spiritual Boxer - It was among the titles anounced for the last Black Belt Theater run with Battle for Shaolin and the others.

Sword of Swords - ran on Turkish TV with the English Dub used for the Turkish (during the Fights you can hear small snippets where they left the sound undubbed in Turkish so that English bits could be heard) released by MIHK

Have Sword Will Travel - ran on Turkish TV

The Pirate - ran on Turkish TV

But these are are questionable and would love if someone someone confirmed they had them (37).

ANONYMOUS HEROES

ASSASSIN

BASTARD, THE

BRAVE ARCHER 4

BUDDHA'S PALM

CASINO

CLAN OF AMAZONS

COME DRINK WITH ME

DEATH DUEL

DRAGON MISSILE

FIST OF VENGEANCE

FLYING DAGGER

FULL MOON SCIMITAR

GOLDEN SWALLOW

HEADS FOR SALE

HEROES SHED NO TEARS

HOLY FLAME OF THE MARTIAL WORLD

HOUSE OF TRAPS

INVINCIBLE ENFORCER

IRON BODYGUARD

KID FROM KWANTUNG

KILLER CLANS

KING EAGLE

LADY HERMIT

LADY IS THE BOSS

MING DYNASTY

MURDER PLOT

PERILS OF THE SENTIMENTAL SWORDSMAN

PROUD TWINS

RAW COURAGE

RENDEZVOUS WITH DEATH

RETURN OF THE ONE-ARMED SWORDSMAN

RETURN OF THE SENTIMENTAL SWORDSMAN

TIGRESS OF SHAOLIN

TRILOGY OF SWORDSMANSHIP

VENGEANCE IS A GOLDEN BLADE

YOUNG VAGABOND

Also these Shaws also supposed to have english dubs(30).

Big Fellow, The

Black Lizard, The

Black Magic

Black Magic Part 2

Bloody Escape, The

Coward Bastard

Deadly Angels

Duel For Gold

Fangs Of The Cobra

Gambling Syndicate, The

Godfather's Fury

Intimate Confessions of a Chinese Courtesan

Killer Snakes, The

Killers On Wheels

Kiss Of Death

Lady Exterminator

Lady Professional, The

Lost Souls

Mercenaries From Hong Kong

Mighty Peking Man, The

Monkey Goes West, The

My Rebellious Son

Mysterious Lady Killer, The

Police Force

Queen Hustler

Sexy Killer, The

Super Inframan

Valley Of The Fangs

Weird Man, The

What Price Honesty

[Guest sevenhooks]

I have both LIZARD & WEB OF DEATH in english, courtesy of the Siren Visual DVD from OZ.

Also, clips of an english dubbed 14 AMAZONS were shown throughout that Celestial-produced Shaw Brothers documentary that can be found as an extra feature on some of those Siren discs.

[Guest sevenhooks]

As requested, here's a scan of the (2 page) GIANT ROBOT magazine interview with Rik Thomas, a fellow who was responsible for dubbing countless old school kung fu flicks back in the day.

Enjoy...