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I rewatched The Magnificent Butcher last night and collected some screenshots of Wei Pai in the film!

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I had already heard about this matter a long while ago, but I don't remember where it was. Did you search in this forum ?

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I just sent a message to Frédéric Ambroisine regarding this matter in order to ask him if he has any information about this and the spider.

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Ok, I sent a question regarding the spider on a Facebook private group devoted to The Venoms, and here's the answer from an expert of the group :

 

Possibly a nod to Web of Death 1976. Their Poison sects were Spider, Centipede, Lizard, Scorpion, Toad and Snake.

 

So, there is at least one point solved...:)

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ShawAngela

Here is another answer from another expert from the group I mentioned above :

 

Excellent question
五毒 the name of the film, refers to the Five Poisons
It is an ancient Chinese cultural trope, associated with the Springtime when nature begins to stir
The traditional Five Poisons include the centipede, snake, toad, scorpion, and spider - no lizard
The spider would present the choreographer with considerable problems, in 1977 明月刀雪夜殲仇 Pursuit of Vengeance had a Spider Man character which some critics think didn’t really work
Shaw’s 1976五毒天羅 refers to the Five Poisons clan and the Heavenly Net, and has a glowing Poison Spider
 
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Cognoscente
On 5/29/2022 at 8:23 PM, ShawAngela said:

I also found this

 

  • The “Snake” role was originally intended for a woman, but director Cheh Chang (reportedly) did not want a woman to have such a prominent role in one of his films.

From this site https://mutantreviewersmovies.com/2010/04/26/five-deadly-venoms-retro-review/

Also this :

The "snake" role was originally intended for a woman.

From imdb https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077559/trivia/

I remember first reading about this in Neil Koch's review over at Hong Kong Film Net.

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I’m curious to know the English name for this series. I love him in it from what I’ve seen!

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I think have still legendary collection dvd of "cheeky chap" somewhere..should give it revisit. I briefly remember not liking movie very much but that is not fault of Wei Pai. If recall correctly he did very fine with his action scenes, on same level with magnificent Last hurrah for chivalry.Movie just was not that interesting but during years opinion can change. Back then when saw some early chang cheh efforts set in modern hk would never have thought many years later I will enjoy lot movies did not appreciate 1st time.

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2 hours ago, venomsreviews said:

I’m curious to know the English name for this series. I love him in it from what I’ve seen!

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Could you post the Chinese characters for the name of the series, please ? He is very good looking, here !

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4 minutes ago, ShawAngela said:

Could you post the Chinese characters for the name of the series, please ? He is very good looking, here !

I would not have IDd him in these pics. Gotten used to see him as serious, smile changes his looks completely!

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On 5/29/2022 at 7:23 PM, venomsreviews said:

That is interesting. Do you happen to have any links or references to the sources you got that from? In all of the interviews and magazines I’ve seen where they introduced the six actors, I have never seen any reference to a woman or spider that was meant to be in the film instead of Wei Pai/the snake, so I would be curious to take a look at it! ☺️

The quest goes on...

Another member of the Facebook group I talked about yesterday remembers to have read somewhere (he doesn't remember where) that it's Helen Poon who should have played the Snake in the original script of Five Deadly Venoms. Maybe the Chinese speakers members of this forum who collect Southern Screen Magazines and others could search in articles devoted to Helen Poon and see if this matter is talked about ?

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On 5/31/2022 at 1:30 AM, FightingFool said:

I think have still legendary collection dvd of "cheeky chap" somewhere..should give it revisit. I briefly remember not liking movie very much but that is not fault of Wei Pai. If recall correctly he did very fine with his action scenes, on same level with magnificent Last hurrah for chivalry.Movie just was not that interesting but during years opinion can change. Back then when saw some early chang cheh efforts set in modern hk would never have thought many years later I will enjoy lot movies did not appreciate 1st time.

I definitely feel like The Cheeky Chap could have been improved! I thought it was charming in its own way, and I enjoyed his character. Although I can see why it wouldn’t be for everyone since there wasn’t necessarily anything huge happening like in some other films, for example. The action was quite good! If you do revisit it, I would love to hear what you think of it.

That is one of the interesting things about revisiting movies. There were some that I didn’t know how to feel about, but after I waited and saw them again later, it seemed like they grew on me!

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On 5/31/2022 at 1:50 AM, FightingFool said:

I would not have IDd him in these pics. Gotten used to see him as serious, smile changes his looks completely!

I have noticed that his characters seem to be quite expressive in the TV series and the ones edited into movies. These are from 劍客與刀客 (unsure of the English title), where his character is quite happy while talking to Sun Chien’s character!

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Revenge of Beautiful Killer is another one that I can think of where he displays a variety of emotions!

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I finally finished making my list of TV series that the Venoms were in. I’ve seen this one called Tolerant Hero in English, but just in case, the Chinese title is 俠骨柔情. I’ve noticed Wei Pai, Sun Chien, Chiang Tao, and Leung Kar-Yan in the clips I’ve seen. These are some of the pictures I’ve found when looking it up. The second one is a screenshot I took from one of the videos!

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Here’s one of Sun Chien also:

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8 minutes ago, venomsreviews said:

I finally finished making my list of TV series that the Venoms were in. I’ve seen this one called Tolerant Hero in English, but just in case, the Chinese title is 俠骨柔情. I’ve noticed Wei Pai, Sun Chien, Chiang Tao, and Leung Kar-Yan in the clips I’ve seen. These are some of the pictures I’ve found when looking it up. The second one is a screenshot I took from one of the videos!

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Here’s one of Sun Chien also:

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Tolerant hero, yes, I got a rip years ago, but I didn't notice Wei Pai at that time ! I only remember of Beardy ! There is also Kwan Fung in the second picture with Sun Chien. Thanks for sharing !

 

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15 minutes ago, ShawAngela said:

Tolerant hero, yes, I got a rip years ago, but I didn't notice Wei Pai at that time ! I only remember of Beardy ! There is also Kwan Fung in the second picture with Sun Chien. Thanks for sharing !

That’s good to know ! I’ll keep Tolerant Hero for the English name on my list then! It’s always fun to see where Wei Pai will pop up. Kwan Fung is great, I always liked him! 

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3 hours ago, venomsreviews said:

This is from Return of the Undercover (四大名捕重出江湖):

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Reminds me a bit of Billy Chow here

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On 5/20/2022 at 12:40 AM, venomsreviews said:

I’m not that familiar with Yueh Hua, so I may not have recognized him if he is! I haven’t seen the Twelve Gold Medallions, so I’ll definitely have to check it out. I had pictures of Wei Pai in it and also a name that I suspected they might have been from, but I wasn’t positive until I started watching the series!

Yueh Hua it top 5 talent, see everything he is in! You won't regret it!

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50 minutes ago, venomsreviews said:

These are both from Jade Bow Connection (雲海玉弓緣): 

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I didn't know that he was in this series ! I have it too, I really need time to watch all my gems !! Wei Pai is very good looking here.

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17 minutes ago, ShawAngela said:

I didn't know that he was in this series ! I have it too, I really need time to watch all my gems !! Wei Pai is very good looking here.

I just found out today! I was looking for the English name of another one of the series he was in since I've been making a list of all the Venoms' TV series when I came across that one ! So, I was watching some episodes on YouTube. He does look quite handsome. I love the outfit they have him wearing too.

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I was watching Young Passion (1974) with the intention of adding images to the gallery on HKMDB. I was quite surprised when Wei Pai showed up around 52 minutes into the film! He was only in it for the movie that played on screen. It didn't last long, but it was quite neat to see him there! I was unaware of his presence in this film until just now.

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