Member nectarsis Posted June 22, 2020 Member Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) What are the Shaw films you find overrated/overhyped...or just plain bad (and why)? Edited June 22, 2020 by nectarsis 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member sym8 Posted June 22, 2020 Member Share Posted June 22, 2020 Martial Club,was so looking forward to this but apart from the Lau Kar Fei vs Wang Lung Wei finale there was nothing to write home about,for me it just seemed to drag.😔 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Iron_Leopard Posted June 22, 2020 Member Share Posted June 22, 2020 First two that came to mind where "Executioners of Shaolin" and "Ten Tigers of Kwantung". 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member sym8 Posted June 22, 2020 Member Share Posted June 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Iron_Leopard said: First two that came to mind where "Executioners of Shaolin" and "Ten Tigers of Kwantung". Executioners definitely,I already new that ten tigers was basically two movies made into one so when I saw it for the first time wasn’t that disappointed,in fact I quite enjoyed it. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member morpheus Posted June 26, 2020 Member Share Posted June 26, 2020 For me it's Eight Diagram Pole Fighter. (I know I'm gonna take flack for this) 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Ramji Posted June 26, 2020 Member Share Posted June 26, 2020 Terrible suggestions people! 😂 Executioners, Martial Club AND 8 Diagrammes?? Sacrilegious! 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member JackieRome Posted June 26, 2020 Member Share Posted June 26, 2020 Everyone knows how I think. for me all films with Venoms are ridiculous in many ways 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member JackieRome Posted June 26, 2020 Member Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, JackieRome said: Everyone knows how I think. for me all films with Venoms are ridiculous in many ways. Legendary Weapons of China, I didn't see him twice and he never convinced me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member morpheus Posted June 26, 2020 Member Share Posted June 26, 2020 6 hours ago, JackieRome said: Everyone knows how I think. for me all films with Venoms are ridiculous in many ways Can we consider that to be a sin? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member JackieRome Posted June 26, 2020 Member Share Posted June 26, 2020 56 minutes ago, morpheus said: Can we consider that to be a sin? of course 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member CT KID Posted June 26, 2020 Member Share Posted June 26, 2020 15 hours ago, morpheus said: For me it's Eight Diagram Pole Fighter. (I know I'm gonna take flack for this) Don't feel bad, I'm gonna say Chinese Super Ninjas and catch even worse! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member paimeifist Posted June 27, 2020 Member Share Posted June 27, 2020 5 Deadly Venoms for sure for me. Not even in my top 5 venoms flicks. Most of the Shaolin Cycle movies are over rated in my opinion, and Heroes Two which I think is the best, is underrated. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Drunken Monk Posted June 27, 2020 Member Share Posted June 27, 2020 Legendary Weapons of China is just bad, Eight Diagram... is overrated and, while I think Five Deadly Venoms is great, It doesn’t necessarily deserve its “kung fu classic” status as it doesn’t really feature that much kung fu. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member morpheus Posted June 29, 2020 Member Share Posted June 29, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 2:20 PM, paimeifist said: 5 Deadly Venoms for sure for me. Not even in my top 5 venoms flicks. Ouch, better check myself; think something might be missing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member nectarsis Posted June 29, 2020 Author Member Share Posted June 29, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 7:20 PM, paimeifist said: 5 Deadly Venoms for sure for me. Not even in my top 5 venoms flicks. Agreed... a solid "mystery/thriller" in a way, but def WAAAAAY overhyped...almost universally 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member paimeifist Posted June 29, 2020 Member Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, nectarsis said: Agreed... a solid "mystery/thriller" in a way, but def WAAAAAY overhyped...almost universally Yeah, I mean it’s pretty good. The mystique and lore is really cool, but the movie just isn’t all that great. Especially compared to other work from the same crew. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Sun Chung Posted June 29, 2020 Member Share Posted June 29, 2020 All Lau Kar-leung movies exept 36th Chamber of Shaolin. 1 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member paimeifist Posted June 29, 2020 Member Share Posted June 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, Sun Chung said: All Lau Kar-leung movies exept 36th Chamber of Shaolin. Well you’re just trying to be controversial now. Thats not even his best film! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Ramji Posted June 29, 2020 Member Share Posted June 29, 2020 So many good things to say about Lau Kar Leung, not only can he choreograph the s*@t out of a fight scene but he also knows how to move a camera. I rewatched Dirty Ho the other day and was taken back by the quality of the sets and camera work on display. Same with Executioners and the Red Boat scenes, it FEELS like a movie, not just a cheap kung fu film (as much as I like the indies) So yeah LKL is a film maker, who also teaches you a thing or two about Kung Fu and actually wrote some half decent characters for women too as they are equally a part of Kung Fu history. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member paimeifist Posted June 29, 2020 Member Share Posted June 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Ramji said: So many good things to say about Lau Kar Leung, not only can he choreograph the s*@t out of a fight scene but he also knows how to move a camera. I rewatched Dirty Ho the other day and was taken back by the quality of the sets and camera work on display. Same with Executioners and the Red Boat scenes, it FEELS like a movie, not just a cheap kung fu film (as much as I like the indies) So yeah LKL is a film maker, who also teaches you a thing or two about Kung Fu and actually wrote some half decent characters for women too as they are equally a part of Kung Fu history. I mean.. Heroes of the East is one of the best martial arts films ever.. and a good example of all of the traits you mentioned in your post. If anything, The 36th Chamber of Shaolin is probably his most “over rated” movie, and I love that movie. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member BigDruDogg Posted July 1, 2020 Member Share Posted July 1, 2020 Like you guys mentioned mine will definitely be controversial as well...But "Come Drink With Me" and pretty much all of King Hu's library I could never get into... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted July 5, 2020 Member Share Posted July 5, 2020 I find most Shaw films "rated" appropriately.... though there are bad ones, such as Friends, Journey of Doom, Coward Bastard and so on. And then there are ones like Five Shaolin Masters which I like, but don't get the fan fervour for it over other Shaolin cycle efforts such as Heroes Two and Shaolin Martial Arts. Return to the 36th Chamber is another one. I like certain aspects of it, but think it was a huge misstep on LKL's part to go down the comedy route for a follow-up to philosophical masterpiece like the first one. Like I also think that remaking My Young Auntie in a modern setting only two years later with Lady is the Boss was a bit lazy and not that great of a movie. I find Flag of Iron quite the bore, though I know a lot of people really love it. Again, a Shaw director remaking his own earlier work and doing a worse job of it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Graeme Of Death Posted July 5, 2020 Member Share Posted July 5, 2020 A few of the convoluted cast of a thousand "epics" I find over rated and not to my taste. Emperor and his Brothers, Ten Tigers From Kwantung , Brave Archer etc 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member NoKUNGFUforYU Posted July 5, 2020 Member Share Posted July 5, 2020 36th Chambers and the Venoms. I mean is that all we can see at rivals? Most of the Venoms films were bombs after a couple of years. Much rather see something not on the big screen in decades like King Eagle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member morpheus Posted July 7, 2020 Member Share Posted July 7, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 10:35 PM, BigDruDogg said: Like you guys mentioned mine will definitely be controversial as well...But "Come Drink With Me" and pretty much all of King Hu's library I could never get into... I can definitely agree with you there. Cheng Pei Pei was cute so "Come Drink with Me" was tolerable. I saw that film on the big screen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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