Guest Markgway Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Maybe you guys can help me with these queries? 1. Is EASTERN HEROES a simple retitling of FURY IN RED or is it a re-edited version? 2. Is FATAL CHASE a Filipino film or a HK-Filipino co-production? I can't find any production company names. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MissScarlett01 Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 1. re-edit 2. HK film where most of the story takes place in the Philippines. And future Mortal Kombat/Red Trousers star Robin Shou stars in both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Thanks, Any idea what's different between Fury in Red and Eastern Heroes? You don't happen to know the prod.co for Fatal Chase do you? Anyone got a Hong Kong poster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BKarza Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I wouldn't call what he made in the Phillipines, films. More like rent money and food money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chen Zhen Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I wouldn't call what he made in the Phillipines, films. More like rent money and food money. :rollin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 :lol Yeah, Philip Ko was Ed Wood's protege, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Takano2002 Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 All the movies made with Ko in Philippines are philippine productions. Fatal Chase is a pinoy movie (with Ronnie Rickkets, no less) with some inserts made in HK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 Cheers, Takano. Can you tell me which of these movies are Filipino, other than Fatal Chase and Lethal Panther 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest contraspirit Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Both LETHAL PANTHER 2 and FATAL CHASE are produced by the HK-based company MY WAY FILMS. And according to the now defunct UK-magazine EASTERN HEROES the film company FILMSWELL simply retitled FURY IN RED for the international market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Ahh, well that's quite different info. Were they Co-productions then? I would assume some Filipino company involvement with those casts? Who's behind My Way Films? Fury in Red is pure-Hong Kong. The one thing I did learn was that 'Eastern Heroes' has a longer uncensored version of a rape scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Takano2002 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I'll collect the info you'll look for, Mark. And, talking about My Way, this company just buy taiwanese, chinese and filipino movies to recut them and sell. Ocassionaly produces, like Legend of the Wold. I had a long term relation with them, so I know what I talking about. This company is owned by Jeremy Cheung and overeseas rights salesman is no other than Mr. Godfrey Ho himself. If you go to Cannes or AFM you can chat with him. All the Philip Ko films made in Philippines ARE NOT COPRODUCTIONS. These are movies with new scenes inserted in HK, like Magsasangga sa Batas recut as Lethal Panter or Magsasangga 2000 being transformed in Ultracop 2000. The original cuts are almost 2 hour long. Heck, if you don't believe just go to any filipino store online and look for the original producers, mainly Viva Films, Regal Fims and others. I think Ko get the 35 mm and overseas right as pay for the action direction in these, and later selling them to My Way, Golden Sun and New Treasurer Films. There are a lot of cut and paste films made this way, like Angel on Fire (called Matira ang Matibay in uncut form, with a lot more of footage with the original filipino actors), Power Connection (originally Tapang sa Tapang, with Lito Lapid almost excissed in all scenes in HK cut) and a lot others you can find them in the rights catalogues from My Way & Golden Sun. Don't talk if you don't know, man. Edit: other filipino films are Guardian Angel, Hard to Kill, Asian Cops: High Voltage, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Excellent info, mate. I've always wondered about the true origins of these films. So for something like Lethal Panther 2 - were the scenes with Yukari Oshima and Philip Ko newly shot and inserted into Magsasangga sa Batas? It would certainly explain why these movies are so often choppy and incoherent. Were any of the Chinese actors directly employed by the Filipinos? Or were they always replacing local actors with new footage? I ask because on something like Hard to Kill I seem to recall most of the film featuring Chinese-based actors like Oshima and Mark Cheng. That would have required most of the movie being reshot, no? More info on these Filipino productions would be ace and really appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Filipino Film Council link for 'Lethal Panther 2' with full cast list: Magkasangga sa batas Seems that the original director was Edwin T. Lanado. Philip Ko is also listed - either for the action or the extra sequences? Yukari Oshima and Sharon Kwok mentioned among the cast - would they have listed these actors if they didn't appear in the original cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reincarnation Of Thundering Mantis Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Hey thanks for the info Takano! Anyone here seen or have any info on the following films Bangis and Bangis 2: Predator rip off with action by Philip Ko Fei Buhawi Jack - Monsour Del Rosario versus the son of Ko Fei Duelo (Duel) - I believe this film has some HK involvement Once Upon A Time In Manila - Yukari Oshima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theportlykicker Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I've got Once Upon A time in Manila on VCD. It's pretty crappy really. Lots of Filipino comedy and bad action performed by Yukari Oshima aka Cynthia Luster:lol . I'm sorry, that name always makes me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest contraspirit Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 @Takano2002 I seriously doubt your info, since there are interviews with Donnie Yen, where he talked about the production of High Voltage (in an older ASIAN CULT CINEMA-issue), and it certainly is a HK-production that was filmed in the Phillipines because it´s so damned cheap there. Maybe there are longer and retitled versions made for the filipino-market, but they have nevertheless chinese producers (most of them were also listed in FILMSWELL- and REGENT-productions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest contraspirit Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I just want to add (since I don´t know how I can edit my posts here): the names of the filipino-directors don´t have to be true, just think of Joseph Cheung, who was labelled as Joseph Velasco for the filipino release of FLAMING BROTHERS, or Yukari Oshima, who is called Cynthia Luster over there (and later even in Germany). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thundered mantis Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Buhawi Jack - Monsour Del Rosario versus the son of Ko Fei What!!??! Ko Fei has a son in the movies? Is also Yukari´s son? If it is, he should be nº 1 badass in the world!! :eek (Maybe the only other human being able to match him would be a HJL-Kim Penn produced one :lol ) No, seriously, could you elaborate a bit more, Reincarnation? Name and movies he´s done, does he got skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reincarnation Of Thundering Mantis Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I'll have to double check for his name. But I'm not sure it's Yukari Oshima's son. He doesn't have any lines of dialog and the fights are as good as it gets as far as Filipino films are concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thundered mantis Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reincarnation Of Thundering Mantis Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Oh his name is Jimmy Ko, he's been around since maybe the mid-90's. Smaller roles and behind the scenes stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Takano2002 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 He's not Yukari's son. But if you want to see him (Jimmy Ko) you can look for all these trash made on video movies directed or produced by Ko for Winner's Workshop in the 80's. He shot some of these in Philippines while he was action directing all these films mentioned. He also appears in the HK-Thai coproductions (yes, these are coproductions) helmed by Ko some years ago, like Legend of a Fighter and Angel Cops. High Voltage could be a HK coproduction, it's true (called Kapwa Kumakasa in the longer talago cut). The others involved Ko not. I know the man personally, so no look for strange theories. If Jun Aristorenas directed Cynthia Khan in a movie, you can be sure it's not a nickname of no HK man. All these pinoy guys directed hundreds of movies. That theory is absurd. Ko directed the action, Ko recieved the 35 mm copies to distribute, Ko sold the rights to Jeremy Cheung. End. And I'm not going to add anything more. If anybody want to discuss look for other guy. I've been 10 years buying-selling rights, so I know what I'm talking. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reincarnation Of Thundering Mantis Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Yeah it's kind of a drag when people feel the need to question your claims Takano2002. I don't what's up with that. But for the record I (along with others) appreciate the inside information you've shared with this board. Thanks for the info man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 I wasn't questioning your claims... I just wanted to know more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest contraspirit Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 @takano I don´t know why you´re so pissed, I don´t know you, man, and I don´t know if you´re in the "biz" since 10 years. But thanks for the information, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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