Member ShaolinMapache Posted May 8, 2020 Member Share Posted May 8, 2020 Choreography involving wires can take just as much skill as choreography sans wires. Sometimes wires can make a fight scene more entertaining even. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DrNgor Posted May 8, 2020 Member Share Posted May 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, ShaolinMapache said: Choreography involving wires can take just as much skill as choreography sans wires. Sometimes wires can make a fight scene more entertaining even. Here, here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member sym8 Posted May 8, 2020 Member Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ShaolinMapache said: Choreography involving wires can take just as much skill as choreography sans wires. Sometimes wires can make a fight scene more entertaining even. This is true but it annoys the hell outta me when certain practioners can do stuff without the aid of wires yet they are still on one.For instance S.P.L.2 finale you have Max Zhang,Wu Jing And Tony Jaa all capable Martial artists yet they’re flying around like some characters from the marvel films.Even to perform basic kicks they were on wires and that winds me up.It has its place but for me less is more. Edited May 8, 2020 by sym8 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Graeme Of Death Posted May 8, 2020 Member Share Posted May 8, 2020 4 hours ago, ShaolinMapache said: Choreography involving wires can take just as much skill as choreography sans wires. Sometimes wires can make a fight scene more entertaining even. Going to half agree with that one. It takes as much skill to choreograph it but takes far less talent to perform most of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Daxtreme Posted May 23, 2020 Member Share Posted May 23, 2020 On 5/8/2020 at 2:53 PM, sym8 said: but for me less is more. As far as wires are concerned, amen. Also applies to CGI 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member venom10463 Posted May 23, 2020 Member Share Posted May 23, 2020 Don the Dragon Wilson is a terrible onscreen fighter. One Armed Swordsman is good, not great. I never understood why it's considered a classic. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is a snore fest. I can't believe it was the film that revitalized the kung fu genre. I'm going to go off on a tangent in... 3,2,1. Michael B Jordan acting in Black Panther was atrocious. The best Avengers films are the last two. The rest are mediocre. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DiP Posted May 23, 2020 Member Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) I love Jackie and Sammo's output in the late 70s, the 80s and early 90s but they get way too much credit for their achievements. They changed the game after Bruce Lee's death, that's for sure. The replay value of their action scenes remains high to this day but their creativity saw little evolution with their styles remaining the same more or less. The Raid movies are extremely overrated. The kitchen fight scene in part 2 the best fight scene ever made?! Iko Uwais is a great MA actor in his own right but he's channeling the best of Jackie, Jet, Tony, and Donnie in his fight scenes and gives his own spin to it. Nothing unique to see. I prefer A Better Tomorrow over The Killer and even Hard-Boiled. The Equalizer 2 is actually better than many naysayers' say about it, offering more of the same good ingredients from the original. Daniel Craig is the best Bond actor since Sean Connery, outdoing everyone else. Batman Begins is better than The Dark Knight Rises. Batman starting his crime fighting was more interesting than him ending it (the conclusion was great too, mind you). Edited May 24, 2020 by DiP 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Ah_Tao Posted May 24, 2020 Member Share Posted May 24, 2020 4 hours ago, DiP said: The Equalizer 2 is actually better than many naysayers' say about it, offering more of the same good ingredients from the original. Oh man, I'm so glad I'm not the only one who loved this movie. I liked it better than the first movie. I'm a huge fan of the original TV show, it's one of my favorite shows. I think this movie reflected more of the coldness from Edward Woodward's portrayal and it was great seeing more JKD Concepts being used. I remember seeing this on opening night and the whole theater was wowed when the first fight scene came up and the end of the movie. It's so great being in such an energetic theater, says a lot about the movie shown. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member WaverBoy Posted May 24, 2020 Member Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/7/2020 at 11:55 AM, Drunken Monk said: Enter the Fat Dragon (the Sammo original) is crap. Also, Pedicab Driver isn't the classic many fans make it out to be. Both films have stellar action but everything else is mostly boring. I fail to see how any Kung fu fan with a heart isn’t captivated by PEDICAB DRIVER, one of the greatest period Kung fu romantic tragicomedies of all time. Everything just clicks perfectly — plot-wise, character-wise, and especially choreography-wise. It’s an absolute disgrace that we still don’t have a worthy release of this ridiculously neglected classic. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Tex Killer Posted May 24, 2020 Member Share Posted May 24, 2020 11 hours ago, venom10463 said: One Armed Swordsman is good, not great. I never understood why it's considered a classic. That is "fact". Golden Swallow, Assassin, Return of OAS, trail of broken blade and Sword of swords are all better movies with more revisit value. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member WaverBoy Posted May 24, 2020 Member Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/7/2020 at 1:31 PM, Graeme Of Death said: Donnie Yen, Jet Li as much as I enjoy some of their films have no right be considered in the same league as Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung and Yuen Biao. Donnie Yen and Jet Li are incredibly skilled martial artists and fine actors as well, and have proved it repeatedly onscreen and off, so I’m not sure why they wouldn’t have a right to be considered in the same league as our beloved Three Brothers. I mean, overall I prefer the films of the Brothers, but I certainly wouldn’t suggest that Donnie and Jet aren’t in their league as martial artists and actors. That’s just silliness. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member WaverBoy Posted May 24, 2020 Member Share Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) It seems I’m not alone in my overall dislike for CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON. I watched it and thought, this is what all the fuss is about? Love Chow and Michelle and Cheng Pei-pei, but the looooooong subplot about the incredibly annoying Jen and her incredibly annoying warrior boyfriend stops the film dead, and even the good parts aren’t as good as anything in ONCE UPON A TIME IN CHINA. Too damn somber, much too Merchant/Ivory. Plus, it stole much of its style and a whole entire scene or two from a Yuen Biao film called THE HERO OF SWALLOW (1996). Not nearly as revolutionary as the filmmakers would like you to think. And unlike Yuen’s film, I could never be bothered to own it. Edited May 24, 2020 by WaverBoy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member WaverBoy Posted May 24, 2020 Member Share Posted May 24, 2020 Here’s a perfect unpopular opinion: I actually quite like DRUNKEN MONKEY (2003), and think it’s a refreshing throwback to the good old days before CGI-enhanced pop stars took over. Not a masterpiece by any stretch, but still a good film with great fight choreography, and a perfectly respectable swan song for the legendary Lau Kar-Leung; I’ll never understand the disdain for this one. I would gladly upgrade my DVD to Blu. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Graeme Of Death Posted May 24, 2020 Member Share Posted May 24, 2020 2 hours ago, WaverBoy said: Donnie Yen and Jet Li are incredibly skilled martial artists and fine actors as well, and have proved it repeatedly onscreen and off, so I’m not sure why they wouldn’t have a right to be considered in the same league as our beloved Three Brothers. I mean, overall I prefer the films of the Brothers, but I certainly wouldn’t suggest that Donnie and Jet aren’t in their league as martial artists and actors. That’s just silliness. Not really, as I said as skilled as Donnie and Jet are they've never displayed anything close to the skills of Jackie, Yuen Biao and Sammo, in terms of on screen fights, choreography or stunts. Donnie Yen and Jet Li would have sat watching some of the classic displays from Jackie and Yuen Biao only wishing they were capable of the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DiP Posted May 24, 2020 Member Share Posted May 24, 2020 Acrobatics and stunts aren't part of fighting and just added stuff in between. Take that away then what Jackie/Sammo/Bill does aren't any different from what Jet and Donnie does. What can't be taken away though from each of them as individual skill set and personas, and all of these guys have displayed stuff that have come to inspire other MA actors from new generations. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DragonClaws Posted May 24, 2020 Member Share Posted May 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Ah_Tao said: I'm a huge fan of the original TV show I'm in the midde of re-visiting this show, Edward Woodward is one of my all time favourite stage/screen actor's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Ah_Tao Posted May 24, 2020 Member Share Posted May 24, 2020 8 hours ago, DragonClaws said: I'm in the midde of re-visiting this show, Edward Woodward is one of my all time favourite stage/screen actor's. Oh yess! His voice alone stands out so much. I'm not going to lie, I find it funny whenever McCall gets mad on screen. He really could go on a whole rant! All in all, this show deserves a proper remaster. I bought the boxset from the folks that did Martial Law and couldn't help but notice that the show was not preserved too well. Hopefully someone can restore the image and fix the audio. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Daxtreme Posted May 25, 2020 Member Share Posted May 25, 2020 16 hours ago, Graeme Of Death said: Not really, as I said as skilled as Donnie and Jet are they've never displayed anything close to the skills of Jackie, Yuen Biao and Sammo, in terms of on screen fights, choreography or stunts. Donnie Yen and Jet Li would have sat watching some of the classic displays from Jackie and Yuen Biao only wishing they were capable of the same. Gotta hand it to you, this is a real unpopular opinion. As real as it gets. Can't say I agree with you though. The fight between Donnie Yen and Wu Jing in SPL is one of the best on-screen fights ever put to screen (in my humble opinion) and was choreographed by Donnie Yen. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member WaverBoy Posted May 25, 2020 Member Share Posted May 25, 2020 On 5/24/2020 at 2:07 AM, Graeme Of Death said: Not really, as I said as skilled as Donnie and Jet are they've never displayed anything close to the skills of Jackie, Yuen Biao and Sammo, in terms of on screen fights, choreography or stunts. Donnie Yen and Jet Li would have sat watching some of the classic displays from Jackie and Yuen Biao only wishing they were capable of the same. That’s simply not true. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member WaverBoy Posted May 25, 2020 Member Share Posted May 25, 2020 21 hours ago, Daxtreme said: Gotta hand it to you, this is a real unpopular opinion. As real as it gets. Can't say I agree with you though. The fight between Donnie Yen and Wu Jing in SPL is one of the best on-screen fights ever put to screen (in my humble opinion) and was choreographed by Donnie Yen. Quoted for truth. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Graeme Of Death Posted May 26, 2020 Member Share Posted May 26, 2020 Seem to have struck a nerve here. It's just an opinion guys 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Tex Killer Posted May 27, 2020 Member Share Posted May 27, 2020 On 5/24/2020 at 9:31 AM, WaverBoy said: It seems I’m not alone in my overall dislike for CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON. I agree 100% but this (and most other modern day made) MA flicks have one good thing. Usually acting/actors are at least good, sometimes better. There are some old skool flicks which are almost torture to watch because of bad actors, who then excels in fight scenes. Would save nerve and time to skip into action instantly but that is not way to watch movie first time... With dialogue scenes I am ok with todays movies. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DrNgor Posted July 7, 2020 Member Share Posted July 7, 2020 I never found Kara Hui all that sexy, even in her prime. I kinda think that Pops traded up when he married Mary Jean Reimer. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member megadurilicus Posted July 7, 2020 Member Share Posted July 7, 2020 Both very beautiful but I kind of agree. I fell in love with Etsuko Shihomi first time I seen Sister Street Fighter wow I never seen a sexy ferocity like hers! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DrNgor Posted July 7, 2020 Member Share Posted July 7, 2020 59 minutes ago, megadurilicus said: I fell in love with Etsuko Shihomi first time I seen Sister Street Fighter wow I never seen a sexy ferocity like hers! And she has aged extremely well on top of that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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