Member Killer Meteor Posted August 12, 2019 Member Share Posted August 12, 2019 The Peter Thomas score is very quirky but I love it. The Wang Fu Liang score is probably the best but it's rather underwhelming - mostly historical epic style cues more suited to a Wu Xia period film. The Cantonese version has some great moments but that annoying "baby" theme that plays whenever Bruce looks at his locket gets really old fast. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Member Killer Meteor Posted August 17, 2019 Member Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) I wonder if any footage shot prior to Lo Wei getting involved in the film appears in the final cut? Maybe we can blame the hooker getting stabbed with a knife handle on Wu Chia-Hsiang? Edited August 17, 2019 by Killer Meteor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DragonClaws Posted August 17, 2019 Member Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Killer Meteor said: I wonder if any footage shot prior to Lo Wei getting involved in the film appears in the final cut? Maybe we can blame the hooker getting stabbed with a knife handle on Wu Chia-Hsiang? I suspect some of the early James Tien/Bruce Lee scene were filmed by him?. Even in the current version, the BL character feels like supporting one for the first half hour. Edited August 17, 2019 by DragonClaws 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Killer Meteor Posted August 17, 2019 Member Share Posted August 17, 2019 Matthew Polly's book suggests Lo Wei filmed the early fight scenes to determine which who would be the star - so when he took over from Wu, it still wasn't a given that Bruce would be the star. Poor James Tien - all those awful trampoline shots of him feel like someone left them in to show him up against Bruce! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DragonClaws Posted August 17, 2019 Member Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Killer Meteor said: Matthew Polly's book suggests Lo Wei filmed the early fight scenes to determine which who would be the star - so when he took over from Wu, it still wasn't a given that Bruce would be the star. I'm going to start reading Mattew Polly's book asap, still among my to read pile. 3 hours ago, Killer Meteor said: Poor James Tien - all those awful trampoline shots of him feel like someone left them in to show him up against Bruce! I would have thought Lo Wei could see the differencebetwen the two anyway?. I'd take Polly word on this, he's done more research than me on the subject than me. I don't think anyone was going out of ther way to make Tien look bad. He made the transition to the shapes style very nicely, and is often underated in this area. Bruce Lee was impressed enugh, to want to hire him for G.O.D. A project which would have meant more to him than any other movie pre ETD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Killer Meteor Posted August 23, 2019 Member Share Posted August 23, 2019 Was it National General who prepared the second English dub and music (the one seen in the US and UK) or was it done prior to them aquiring it? Given that composer Peter Thomas is German, maybe it was done in Europe? I wonder which score was on German and French versions - Wang Fu Liang or Peter Thomas? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member chen lung Posted August 23, 2019 Member Share Posted August 23, 2019 On 8/12/2019 at 7:47 AM, Killer Meteor said: The Cantonese version has some great moments but that annoying "baby" theme that plays whenever Bruce looks at his locket gets really old fast. I actually like it. The most annoying thing is the war cry every time he breathes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Killer Meteor Posted August 23, 2019 Member Share Posted August 23, 2019 Oh yeah, that was too much! I really like the piano tune in the brothel scene, it later turned up in John Woo's Heroes Shed No Tears. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member chen lung Posted August 23, 2019 Member Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Killer Meteor said: Was it National General who prepared the second English dub and music (the one seen in the US and UK) or was it done prior to them aquiring it? Given that composer Peter Thomas is German, maybe it was done in Europe? I wonder which score was on German and French versions - Wang Fu Liang or Peter Thomas? My guess would be this: for the international market, Golden Harvest re-edited the film not long after the original Hong Kong premiere. Some early versions (on older media; some with local edits - e.g. Rene Château VHS in French; South African print in English) were based on this, as evidenced by music, effects, and the presence of some footage missing in the National General Pictures' one. NGP were similarly given elements, but decided to re-voice the cast (all that remains are some yells and groaning), change the music (completely), alter the effects slightly (adding a delay?), and edit it down (perhaps for improvement and to achieve a lower rating but also due to damage?). It needs a little tidy, but there's some information at IMDb. Edited August 24, 2019 by chen lung 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Killer Meteor Posted August 24, 2019 Member Share Posted August 24, 2019 21 hours ago, chen lung said: My guess would be this: for the international market, Golden Harvest re-edited the film not long after the original Hong Kong premiere. Some early versions (on older media; some with local edits - e.g. Rene Château VHS in French; South African print in English) were based on this, as evidenced by music, effects, and the presence of some footage missing in the National General Pictures' one. NGP were similarly given elements, but decided to re-voice the cast (all that remains are some yells and groaning), change the music (completely), alter the effects slightly (adding a delay?), and edit it down (perhaps for improvement and to achieve a lower rating but also due to damage?). It needs a little tidy, but there's some information at IMDb. On the HKL English track, there is a slight echo on the sound effects, the delay of which you speak, but the volume levels are consistent. On the English track that is on the old Fox DVD (itself derived from the CBS Fox laserdisc), and the Shout! Factory BDs, the sound FX from the HK audio (yells and punch) play in the first half of the film at a significantly lower volume level than the dialogue and music, only correcting itself about the time of Bruce's first fight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DragonClaws Posted August 26, 2019 Member Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 10:17 PM, Killer Meteor said: On the HKL English track, there is a slight echo on the sound effects, the delay of which you speak, but the volume levels are consistent. On the English track that is on the old Fox DVD (itself derived from the CBS Fox laserdisc), and the Shout! Factory BDs, the sound FX from the HK audio (yells and punch) play in the first half of the film at a significantly lower volume level than the dialogue and music, only correcting itself about the time of Bruce's first fight. @Killer Meteor You really know your stuff in regards to the Big Boss soundtrack's and the many variation's. The only version's I've owned are the Rank VHS, HKL HD DVD, and the MediumRare Blu-Ray. Which release of the film would be your favourite?. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Killer Meteor Posted August 27, 2019 Member Share Posted August 27, 2019 The last Shout! release is the best for having the Mandarin mono track and good picture. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DragonClaws Posted August 27, 2019 Member Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Killer Meteor said: The last Shout! release is the best for having the Mandarin mono track and good picture. If I'm not mistaken, the MediumRare prints were sourced from the Shout releases?. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Member Coliseum1972 Posted September 1, 2019 Member Share Posted September 1, 2019 French version is on dailymotion , there couldve been two french versions : Andre Genoves and Rene Chateau 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DragonClaws Posted September 7, 2019 Member Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Han Ying-Chieh and Bruce Lee at the Pak Chong ice factory location. Edited September 7, 2019 by DragonClaws 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DragonClaws Posted September 11, 2019 Member Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) Source- https://www.steverude.com/products/brucelee_2019 Edited September 11, 2019 by DragonClaws 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DragonClaws Posted September 12, 2019 Member Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) Anyone own a copy of this Big Boss comic book?. @TheFlyingPanda, is this one of the 70's comics you were refering to in the BL Collectibles thread?. Edited September 12, 2019 by DragonClaws 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member ShawAngela Posted September 21, 2019 Member Share Posted September 21, 2019 On 1/6/2018 at 9:50 AM, Fist of the Heavenly Sky said: This is what actual sadness is like. Except on youtube, I wonder where it's possible to find this Mandarin version of the song... I would love to find it, as well as the Mandarin version of the song sung at the end of Fist of fury... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DragonClaws Posted September 28, 2019 Member Share Posted September 28, 2019 Source- https://bruceleeinfocus.blogspot.com/2017/12/bruce-lee-cronologia-ilustrada-parte-v.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Member Drunksnake Posted October 20, 2019 Member Share Posted October 20, 2019 I have the HK universe dvd of The Big Boss and its a completely different dub that I never hear anyone talk about. It has the Cantonese re-release music but a different voice artist for Bruce and doesn’t have the added-in real Bruce war cries from other films but has some very different war cries. Same with the Mandarin audio on this dvd. I prefer this soundtrack and would like to know if it’s available on any blu ray release? Help and info would be much appreciated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DragonClaws Posted November 5, 2019 Member Share Posted November 5, 2019 Nothing much has changed in regards to this Big Boss location, apart from the huge Toyota sign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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