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Who Is More Bad Ass? Ti Lung Vs David Chiang


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Here is the kill count for David Chiang vs Ti Lung Who is more badass??!!

Vengeance

Deadly Duo

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Lady Jin Szu-Yi

LOL The Deadly Duo was pretty crazy...

In a way it does not surprise me that Chiang was the 'winner.'

This was exactly what I needed this morning after some very rough news.

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WonBin'sMojo

Damn, I love these guys equally but if I had to narrow it down to just one badass? Sh!t, I'd go Ti Lung. Chiang is the more suave character.

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GOLDEN DRAGON Y-Y

When I consider all of their movies I saw I think I go with Ti Lung. I do not know for sure but I think Ti Lung did more movies than David Chiang. As I like them both equally I'll still go with Ti Lung.

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Lady Jin Szu-Yi

 

I like both of them.

 

David certainly was a man of the times and very charming. He's awesome in those early 70s Shaw films (and fantastic in Shaolin Mantis too.) Such an aura of cool and quiet danger.

 

but Ti transports me into those wuxia worlds and I love watching him perform as an actor and martial artist.

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Dude Deadly Duo was hilarious when they were trying to cross the bridge and guys kept dying. Well if that doesnt work this MIGHT work but if I die go on without me! etc hahaha.

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When I consider all of their movies I saw I think I go with Ti Lung. I do not know for sure but I think Ti Lung did more movies than David Chiang. As I like them both equally I'll still go with Ti Lung.

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Dad??? You finally came home!!!! I've been looking everywhere for you!!! :heart:heart:heart:heart:heart:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout

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Lady Jin Szu-Yi

 :coveredlaugh Good one.

The more I watch their films the more I think they both bad asses in unique ways.

Chiang just dominated any early 70s film where he played a brooding, knife(sword) wielding young man. He could also rock those counter culture mod clothes like nobody's business (one of the reasons' why I love Vengeance so much... yeah really.)

Ti owns the wuxia genre. Give that man a sword, spear or staff and not only will he kick the :swearing out of his opponents, he will be elegant, heroic (well okay NOT always) and mop the floor with his enemies. Each time I rewatch a film I see a new move, or hint of character and I love that.

I like them both as actors (though I've seen Ti in more varied roles) and they're both handsome. So, for me, they two different types of bad asses.

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Secret Executioner

It really depends on the movie. Based only on movies where both appear, I found David Chiang really badass in The Pirate when he got out of the casino by beating up everybody. So Chiang wins for this one, though Ti Lung played a very nice and interesting character.

I'll have to think of a film where I found Ti Lung more badass than David Chiang though, cause they're on par or David Chiang is slightly above most of the time.

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Up till the time I saw Flaming Sword  (which I did last night), I had thought that One arm  Swordsman was Chiang's best Sword film. But now I have to think twice. Flaming sword has much more action, you could say quintuple the amount. But One-Arm  had more emphasis on the inner-man,which showcases Chiang's talent for brooding type characters. This is the difference between Chiang and Ti Lung.

 

Don't want to go the route of saying which actor is better, as it would be unfair to them, and maybe even insulting. It's just that these two men seem suited for different roles. Ti Lung for dynamic roles whereas Chiang for brooding type roles.

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Lady Jin Szu-Yi

A couple of months later and a lot more Chiang under my sash, I will happily concede to David. He snuck up on me. I like that.

 

The strange part of that was, I'd seen Vengeance! and The Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires within days of each other and the latter's flashback of Chiang playing his character's ancestor really blew me away (just the physicality behind him playing a convincing older character really made me say, okay I can watch this guy in anything. And I happily have.)  I also really respect how seriously he upped his game martial arts-wise in the late 70s.  Great comedian too. 

 

Stand by my earlier praise of Ti Lung (and I love, love, love, The Deadly Breaking Sword, Swordsman and Enchantress and The Avenging Eagle.)  He is the man with the fan. 

 

They definitely are two different types and play off each other quite nicely.  They're both terrific actors.  I would agree no need for versus between these two. 

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In my opinion both men had their moments when one outdid the other.The gist of it falls upon which era.I think in the classic shaw era David Chiang had the edge because he was the little guy who seemed like he was laid back but his devil may care smile said otherwise.Then he would steal the show giving you a taste of his hidden ferocity and tenacity in battle.Similar to Bruce Lee but not in same vein in terms of skill,power,or primal rage.

 

Ti lung was more of the sex symbol with his bare chested swagger and machismo coupled with his errant knight persona.He would become the superior badass when he started doing the heroic bloodshed triad films in the modern day settings like True Colours and Better Tomorrow and others of that type.Whether he played as a detective or  Rascal he was just rugged and smooth at the same time with a cool as a cucumber attitude.

That's my personal insight on things.Take it or leave it but you can't refute the fact that both men are essential in that aspect.

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I really cannot say who is my fav. In solo movies ti lung delivered outstanding performances but also few crap ones(young lovers in flying wheels 1st came to mind) but so did chiang(loot, challenger)..David chiang is more streetsmart character without being prick(same cannot be said about fu sheng, sorry fans but he was somatimes as irrating as jackie chan in drunken master) but still....when they were in same movie both are often great and I should let coin decide who I like most...and even in bad ass section kill count does not matter but how it is done,,,,and chiang had style in deadly duo and new onearmed swordsman

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Lady Jin Szu-Yi

I dig them both immensely, but have been truly impressed with Ti again lately. I've noticed such a maturation of his characterization and his martial arts ability impresses me mightily. I suppose I might give the Better Tomorrow films another look as a result too. 

 Chiang is a delightful comedian, an excellent director and an astute performer.  I wish he could have been in the group that makes martial comedies because I think that is his secret weapon: his humor can be stupidly over the top (the absolutely perfect WTH Legend of the Owl) or sly and witty (A Mad World of Fools.) To say nothing of The Loot and The Challenger...

I think they can both play anyone and it's great they are still active as actors and  still performing some martial arts too. 

I like that I am finding new things to enjoy about both of them. Sometimes I watch Iron Triangle films from one character's perspective and notice new things with the other character.  Little things like acting style or some martial detail pop up and it feels like I am watching the film again for the first time. They're both great. 

Everyone has bad films in their resumes, the only missteps I've seen between these two would be Snake Prince for Ti and and The Magnificent Wanderers for Chiang.  I really enjoy the sappy, goofy, too serious modern films they did early in their Shaw careers, i.e. cue Lady Jin Teeny Bopper. It was an interesting experiment in trying to address taboo matters in the modern world.  And there's something innocent about a lot of those films (I haven't seen all of them yet, but judging on what I have seen. I can roll with those.)

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JC seems to get the short end of the stick when compared to TL. Have to give props to John over Ti for the former had a harder life earlier on. Despite having been in the entertainment industry, his family did struggle and he ran away from home as a teen. He was a rogue teenager who could have easily succumbed to the temptation of the triads but somehow managed to pull himself through some rough years. Both he and Ti each have their pros and cons, depending on the film,  and Ti is quite dynamic in many. But John always had that wily smile on his face which made his opponents guess what he may or may not do.

 

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31 minutes ago, teako170 said:

Have to give props to John over Ti for the former had a harder life earlier on. Despite having been in the entertainment industry, his family did struggle and he ran away from home as a teen. He was a rogue teenager who could have easily succumbed to the temptation of the triads but somehow managed to pull himself through some rough years.

I had no absolutely no idea John (I know I keep calling him David) went through all of that. It's wonderful he pulled himself out of a rough situation and made such a good life for himself.  Even from footage back then, I'd never know he'd had it rough. Makes me respect him all the more. 

Thank you for sharing this Teako. 

and posting the great image too (my heart just thumped a little bit faster.)

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Lady Jin Szu-Yi

This fella is one of the reasons why I dig John Chiang so much... Swift Sword!

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3 hours ago, Lady Jin Szu-Yi said:

I had no absolutely no idea John (I know I keep calling him David) went through all of that. It's wonderful he pulled himself out of a rough situation and made such a good life for himself.  Even from footage back then, I'd never know he'd had it rough. Makes me respect him all the more. 

Thank you for sharing this Teako. 

and posting the great image too (my heart just thumped a little bit faster.)

@Lady Jin Szu-Yi  Much more to come on the life of David/John .. in a little book on Fu Sheng . :cool

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1 hour ago, teako170 said:

Much more to come on the life of David/John .. in a little book on Fu Sheng

Wow. :smile Here I thought there would be more with Ti considering how fond Ti was of Fu. 

Much obliged for the information you're sharing, Teako, makes waiting for the book all the better. Xiexie!

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2 hours ago, Lady Jin Szu-Yi said:

Wow. :smile Here I thought there would be more with Ti considering how fond Ti was of Fu. 

Much obliged for the information you're sharing, Teako, makes waiting for the book all the better. Xiexie!

Alex & John were closer earlier on in Alex's career. He is, to this day, good family friends with the Cheungs and helped Alex land work at SB. But when they were in Taiwan, the relationship became strained. Alex and Ti then got closer and were best buds for the remaining years. Ti even spent the night at the funeral home watching over Alex's body. Don't worry, there will be lots of good stuff on both actors in the book.

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@teako170  Didn't know that Alex and John were that close.  I know his death really impacted them both.  At any rate, thanks for the information. The book will be very comprehensive and I'm looking forward to learning about Fu.

Appreciate it, Teako. 

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Been thinking this some days - seriously. While I like more chiangs street smart character but ti lung delivers more overall. In drama sections outcome is clear, ti lung has edge. And that is what counts. When they star together it is often david chiang who appears better, but in solo movies/scenes ti lung gets my vote. And ti lung has some bad performances...(bad in good manner)

 

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