Member Kwok Choi Posted October 16, 2010 Member Share Posted October 16, 2010 I did some digging in another forum ("Asian dvd guide") and found in one of their threads dating back to 2006 that after a few pages of discussion the conclusion is that the latest version on the Fortune Star dvd (the subplot of the mother seducing her jailer in order to get pregnant) is cut. It sounds like 5 to 7 minutes were cut. Does anyone know if it was ever released in its complete version (maybe in another country)? According to this print on the link nowhere is it mentioned that Angela Mao's character is illegitimate and even the killers are referring to her as General Liu's daughter.Remember that these killers used to be the General's close allies so they know a lot about the family situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member thelastweaponmaster Posted October 16, 2010 Member Share Posted October 16, 2010 Hi Kwok Choi; Regarding your last point that the killers are referring to Mao's character as General Liu's daughter, I don't think they would be aware that the mother would had gone to the extreme of getting pregnant by the jailer in order to exact her revenge. They would had just assume that she was the General's daughter. Doesn't anyone out there have the full original version of this movie to confirm this point? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Kwok Choi Posted October 17, 2010 Member Share Posted October 17, 2010 Hi Kwok Choi; Regarding your last point that the killers are referring to Mao's character as General Liu's daughter, I don't think they would be aware that the mother would had gone to the extreme of getting pregnant by the jailer in order to exact her revenge. They would had just assume that she was the General's daughter. Doesn't anyone out there have the full original version of this movie to confirm this point? Thanks. Hi Thelastweaponmaster, this is a very good and valid point but what would the authorities have to say or those who know about this incident in the jail,have to say about their " offspring " wrecking so much havoc and commotion that almost destabilises the incumbent regime.Someone definitely would have spilled the beans because at some stage there would be a lot at stake which would prevent people from keeping quite about the real identify of Angela Mao if it would help prevent unnecessary conflict and I wouldn't buy the idea that everyone at the jail who knew are dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Sheng Posted October 17, 2010 Member Share Posted October 17, 2010 Are these subtitles altered just to give us a different movie on dvd ? I assume that the subs were later written or at least worked over. According to my girlfriend, a native Mandarin speaker, they are a fairly accurate representation of the original dialogue. Yee Mei, the mother, says to the prison overseer with a slightly seductive facial expression: ่ฆ ้ ไฝ ็ ง้กพไบ(... "I need you to take care of me"). Later, when she talks about her pregnancy to her friend (โThousand Handsโ) after dropping the basket full of rocks she first laughs hysterically before the starts to sobb. The scene simply conveys the feeling that by being pregnant she reached her final goal. And I for one believe it was INTENDED to convery exactly that. But what we should keep in mind in regard to references of the mother to her fellow inmates about her daughter avenging her โfatherโ or her โparentsโ (i.e. the Liu family) is, as I already pointed out, the total loss of face, the โshamefullnessโ (like my girl phrased it) that would be attached to her if she would admit of being impregnated by anyone other than her husband. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member gskmeva Posted October 21, 2010 Member Share Posted October 21, 2010 It's interesting how everyone is bring this up. Anyway, anyone have access to the earlier dvd of the movie? I know for a while, there were clips from a full screen print dvd with Chinese/English subtitles (probably a bootleg) posted on Youtube. Anyone seen this dvd and could compare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMK Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 DESCRIPTIONI am new to the club, the Angela Mao Fan Club that is. I was never really a particularly huge fan of hers, that is until I recently viewed the masterpiece of a film that is, 'Broken Oath'. If you have NOT seen this movie yet, PLEASE do yourself a favor and WATCH IT, you will not regret it!POINT OF INTEREST0:49 โข 2:09 โข 2:53 โข 3:23ย ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member MarsHarmony Posted March 25, 2011 Member Share Posted March 25, 2011 Mao Ying has been an inspiration for me since 1973, and this clip is a perfect example why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Tosh Posted February 25, 2013 Member Share Posted February 25, 2013 Wow! I watched this movie for the first time, I'm blown away. This is going to have to get an immediate rewatch. Didn't know this was a remake of Lady Snowblood till I read through the thread, for a Golden Harvest film I noticed this was more like an old Shaw movie from the 60's, just with outstanding Kung Fu, great sets, no stupid humor, man does Bruce Leung tear it up, and Angela is absolutely gorgeous, she kicks ass on all levels! Now I get the scorpion:angel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member paimeifist Posted June 11, 2015 Member Share Posted June 11, 2015 I watched Broken Oath tonight.. Keeping this simple because I will definitely do a more in depth post about it in the near future.. I loved this movie. It's the first movie I've seen with Angela Mao as the lead, and she killed it in the fights, and acting. Cheng Chang-Ho is the man, and I have yet to see a movie that disappoints me by him...definitely a favorite director of mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DrNgor Posted June 11, 2015 Member Share Posted June 11, 2015 I watched Broken Oath tonight.. Keeping this simple because I will definitely do a more in depth post about it in the near future.. I loved this movie. It's the first movie I've seen with Angela Mao as the lead, and she killed it in the fights, and acting. Cheng Chang-Ho is the man, and I have yet to see a movie that disappoints me by him...definitely a favorite director of mine. Glad you liked it! According to an interview with Bruce Leung Siu-Lung, he and Michael Chan Wai-Man improvised a bit of the choreography in their final showdown because the director wasn't quite sure how he wanted it to play out. It gave us some nice kicking from Leung, so I can't complain. :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member paimeifist Posted June 11, 2015 Member Share Posted June 11, 2015 Glad you liked it! According to an interview with Bruce Leung Siu-Lung, he and Michael Chan Wai-Man improvised a bit of the choreography in their final showdown because the director wasn't quite sure how he wanted it to play out. It gave us some nice kicking from Leung, so I can't complain. :-) No doubt that was an amazing fight, and the best performance I've seen from Bruce Leung, although I admittedly haven't seen a whole lot from him. The Odd Couple is one I've wanted to see for a whole but haven't yet for some reason. Lau Kar Wong is a favorite of mine, and Sammo is a favorite of everyone's, so..it's gotta be great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DragonClaws Posted June 11, 2015 Member Share Posted June 11, 2015 No doubt that was an amazing fight, and the best performance I've seen from Bruce Leung, although I admittedly haven't seen a whole lot from him. The Odd Couple is one I've wanted to see for a whole but haven't yet for some reason. Lau Kar Wong is a favorite of mine, and Sammo is a favorite of everyone's, so..it's gotta be great! Broken Oath is one Golden Harvest title that has evaded me for years. The only footage Ive seen are the clips featured in The Best Of Martial Arts film. There's never been an official U.K release that I know of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Hasimir Fenring Posted June 12, 2015 Member Share Posted June 12, 2015 Broken Oath is one Golden Harvest title that has evaded me for years. The only footage Ive seen are the clips featured in The Best Of Martial Arts film. There's never been an official U.K release that I know of. Joy Sales re-released it over in Hong Kong, which is the version I imported. YesAsia and DDDHouse look to have it in stock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member paimeifist Posted June 12, 2015 Member Share Posted June 12, 2015 It's also in The Angela Mao Collection Shout! factory released.. Which I will be getting for a HQ version of this, and also because I haven't seen anything else on it... This movie alone would be worth it though, truly great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Hasimir Fenring Posted June 14, 2015 Member Share Posted June 14, 2015 It's also in The Angela Mao Collection Shout! factory released.. Which I will be getting for a HQ version of this, and also because I haven't seen anything else on it... This movie alone would be worth it though, truly great. Just had a look at that one. Me likey. If I had the money, that'd be on its way. I have Broken Oath and The Himalayan already, plus there's a decent subtitled copy of When Taekwondo Strikes up on YouTube. Stoner I tried buying multiple times, only for it to either be OOP or my one and only order from Five Star Laser... The other two I can't find acceptable copies of online. Either dubbed or unsubbed on the net. Plus there's the presence of Jimmy Wang Yu. Urk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Lady Jin Szu-Yi Posted October 9, 2015 Member Share Posted October 9, 2015 I liked it better this time around. Nice to pick out some crazy fights and see the Lady Snowblood influences. Another great period Chan Wai Man villain too (old dog Zhao Cai who apparently never has goodย hair/beard days..) ย 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member paimeifist Posted October 9, 2015 Member Share Posted October 9, 2015 On 10/10/2015 at 9:47 AM, Lady Jin Szu-Yi said: I liked it better this time around. Nice to pick out some crazy fights and see the Lady Snowblood influences. Another great period Chan Wai Man villain too (old dog Zhao Cai who apparently never has goodย hair/beard days..) ย This is the first and only lead role I have seen from Angela Mao, and I thought it was a great movie. She gets to show her skills off, and the story/plot are handled very well. Great job by Jeng Cheong-Woh. ย 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Lady Jin Szu-Yi Posted January 28, 2016 Member Share Posted January 28, 2016 Like I need an excuse to watch one of my most favorite KF villains (Zhao Cai) being evil, under-handed and breaking hands... really though, this film boasts one of the best stories I've seen in martial arts films (revenge or otherwise.)ย I really like that it moves past Lady Snowblood and throws in other nifty subplots (Imperial spies etc.) ย The aging make ups on the four baddies are excellent too.ย It's a very addictive film for me because I get so sucked into the world,ย universe once Jia Lian is an adult and Chan Wai Man is soooooooooooooooooooo great.ย Still bummed that Miss Angela Mao Ying did not have a longer fight against Chan Wai Man though, otherwise the choreography like everything else in this film, is very, very well done.ย 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member paimeifist Posted January 28, 2016 Member Share Posted January 28, 2016 Jeng Cheong-Woh, Lady Jin, Jeng Cheong-Woh. ย Why did Shaws have to force this master out?! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Lady Jin Szu-Yi Posted January 29, 2016 Member Share Posted January 29, 2016 2 hours ago, paimeifist said: Jeng Cheong-Woh, Lady Jin, Jeng Cheong-Woh. Why did Shaws have to force this master out?! ย Xiexie, Paimeifist. He did a brilliantย job directing Broken Oath. I'm almost worried to ask how / why the Shaws forced him out? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member paimeifist Posted January 29, 2016 Member Share Posted January 29, 2016 28 minutes ago, Lady Jin Szu-Yi said: Xiexie, Paimeifist. He did a brilliantย job directing Broken Oath. I'm almost worried to ask how / why the Shaws forced him out? I'm not the most knowledgable on this, but I believe he felt his creativity was restricted due to their crazy time restraints and trying to always cash in on what's known to already work/exploitation etc. I may have even heard or read an interview where he implies this. My memory kinda sucks though. :/ I also believe I have read similar about King Hu.ย ย Id love to have some more knowledgable members throw their two cents in on this. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Tex Killer Posted January 30, 2016 Member Share Posted January 30, 2016 On 1/29/2016 at 7:12 AM, Lady Jin Szu-Yi said: Like I need an excuse to watch one of my most favorite KF villains (Zhao Cai) being evil, under-handed and breaking hands... really though, this film boasts one of the best stories I've seen in martial arts films (revenge or otherwise.)ย I really like that it moves past Lady Snowblood and throws in other nifty subplots (Imperial spies etc.) ย The aging make ups on the four baddies are excellent too.ย It's a very addictive film for me because I get so sucked into the world,ย universe once Jia Lian is an adult and Chan Wai Man is soooooooooooooooooooo great.ย Still bummed that Miss Angela Mao Ying did not have a longer fight against Chan Wai Man though, otherwise the choreography like everything else in this film, is very, very well done.ย It`s not worth of classic reputation in my opinion but after quite tedious 30 mins rest turned out to be damn fine flick. "multilple" main bad guys fight was done with style... ย 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member ShawAngela Posted January 30, 2016 Member Share Posted January 30, 2016 On 1/29/2016 at 7:12 AM, Lady Jin Szu-Yi said: Like I need an excuse to watch one of my most favorite KF villains (Zhao Cai) being evil, under-handed and breaking hands... really though, this film boasts one of the best stories I've seen in martial arts films (revenge or otherwise.)ย I really like that it moves past Lady Snowblood and throws in other nifty subplots (Imperial spies etc.) ย The aging make ups on the four baddies are excellent too.ย It's a very addictive film for me because I get so sucked into the world,ย universe once Jia Lian is an adult and Chan Wai Man is soooooooooooooooooooo great.ย Still bummed that Miss Angela Mao Ying did not have a longer fight against Chan Wai Man though, otherwise the choreography like everything else in this film, is very, very well done.ย I'm glad that you enjoyed this one. Angela is great in it and the way she uses the scorpions is great too. One of her best movies and Bruce Liang was very good too in it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Lady Jin Szu-Yi Posted January 30, 2016 Member Share Posted January 30, 2016 3 hours ago, ShawAngela said: I'm glad that you enjoyed this one. Angela is great in it and the way she uses the scorpions is great too. One of her best movies and Bruce Liang was very good too in it. Agreed. Leung Siu Lung was fantastic in this one.ย ย I love Angela'sย little fight / exchange with Ko Cheng-Yu just before Chan Wai Man shows up and pretends to protect her. ย I had no idea that Tony Liu Jun-Guk was the lackey whom Leung Siu-Lung kills before he goes after the real big bads. Nice to keep learning about this film. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Tex Killer Posted January 30, 2017 Member Share Posted January 30, 2017 I was not sure when viewed 1st time is it really worth it`s reputation as classic. After revisit year+ later can say yes. Plot of girl wanting revenge for parents is nothing extraodrinary even as it has bit more than that. Great action scenes and Angela Mao makes it winner, she is very confident with punches, kicks and weapons. Also ~15 minutes end fight is really nicely choreographed and has some interesting elements like fire spitting villain and doppelgangers... Should follow this with "hapkido" perhaps... ย 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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