Member Jay Stone Posted October 9, 2012 Member Share Posted October 9, 2012 OK I picked this up only because I got it for five bucks. It has the US versions of Project A 1 and 2 and Armor of God 1and 2. I had read a few reviews that stated all the films were cropped from 2.35:1 except Armor of God 1. But on my disc all 4 movies are cropped. Was there a pressing of this that did have AoG in the full 2.35:1 ratio. That's the main reason I got it, though I probably still would have anyway. Yeah, I know it sucks the way these classics have been presented by Miramax/Echo Bridge, but it seems we'll never get good blu rays of these or any other of Jackie's movies with subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member David Rees Posted October 9, 2012 Member Share Posted October 9, 2012 I wouldnt even pay $5 for them, not only cut to pieces but badly dubbed as well. With Project A , apparently they even cut out the outtakes at the end!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jay Stone Posted October 9, 2012 Author Member Share Posted October 9, 2012 Now I'm thinking, was AoG one of the few films that Jackie didn't shoot in scope? I remember that usually was only the case with some movies he didn't direct himself, but originally he wasn't the director of AoG, Eric Tsang was, and he directed the opening sequence, where Jackie's hair was real short, and Jackie was injured during the jump. The only other version I own of the movie is a copy of a full screen VHS with subs cut off on the sides. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Killer Meteor Posted October 9, 2012 Member Share Posted October 9, 2012 AoG is 1.85:1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jay Stone Posted October 9, 2012 Author Member Share Posted October 9, 2012 Ah, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member OldPangYau Posted October 9, 2012 Member Share Posted October 9, 2012 I'm guilty of picking this up as well, but Armour of God does look damn good and in actual HD (more than can be said for the Kam and Ronson HK blu). Of course, it's slightly cut (not as bad as the 10 - 20 minutes some of his other films have suffered!), but it's the best quality I've seen. So yeah, Miramax blu ray is in true high definition, but is cut and dubbed, yet the Kam and Ronson blu-ray is uncut and subtitled, but an upconversion (and an upconversion of a less then stellar SD transfer... seriously, Fortune Star's transfer of AoG always looked a bit too reddish/orangish, and the contrast seemed off). I swear, with so many of these movies, we can't have our cake and eat it too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jay Stone Posted October 9, 2012 Author Member Share Posted October 9, 2012 There is also a set of Supercop and Twin Dragons, with TD being listed as 2.35:1 Do you have that one OldPangYau? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member massa_yoda Posted October 9, 2012 Member Share Posted October 9, 2012 The stand alone Blu Ray of Operation Condor by Echo Bridge is not cropped btw. I picked up this and AOG for cheap. Jackie on Blu = win for me. I also got TD. It is 1080i and has a brief interview with Jackie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member OldPangYau Posted October 10, 2012 Member Share Posted October 10, 2012 There is also a set of Supercop and Twin Dragons, with TD being listed as 2.35:1 Do you have that one OldPangYau? I don't have it, but I've read that TD is indeed 2.35, but Supercop is Supercropped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jay Stone Posted October 10, 2012 Author Member Share Posted October 10, 2012 Thanks, I see massayoda above you says its 1080i. I don't think there is another person in film whose movies are treated worse than Jackie. It's really pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member OldPangYau Posted October 10, 2012 Member Share Posted October 10, 2012 Thanks, I see massayoda above you says its 1080i. I don't think there is another person in film whose movies are treated worse than Jackie. It's really pathetic. Yeah, I read that its 1080i as well However, AoG is in 1080p, and I believe the solo blu of Operation Condor is as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jay Stone Posted May 29, 2013 Author Member Share Posted May 29, 2013 Now there is an Echo Bridge 3 movie set that includes Supercop at the full 2.35 to 1 ratio, but the sound is only 2 channel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member blue_skies Posted May 29, 2013 Member Share Posted May 29, 2013 Thanks, I see massayoda above you says its 1080i. I don't think there is another person in film whose movies are treated worse than Jackie. It's really pathetic. you're kidding, right? By comparison of many, many other kung fu movies available on DVD or not even available on DVD, Jackie Chan movies are positively stunning. most of his starring roles have been completely remastered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member spannick Posted May 29, 2013 Member Share Posted May 29, 2013 Now there is an Echo Bridge 3 movie set that includes Supercop at the full 2.35 to 1 ratio, but the sound is only 2 channel! ] very nice Video Quality, have the Set here. the DVDs in the Set are HORRIBLY encoded btw, 3 Full Movies crammed into 5.7GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member newgen2005 Posted May 29, 2013 Member Share Posted May 29, 2013 OK guys, might check these US editions out!! Would love to see Twin Dragons and Armour of God films. Which are the best Blu-ray's to pick up? I see Amazon do a 2 movie edition of TD and SC, TD on it's own and a 4 movie set OC, OC2, PA, PA2. Are we best to get the individual Blu-rays? Are they all from the same source? I know they are the US cuts but I want see these films in proper HD, plus they are dirt cheap!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jay Stone Posted May 29, 2013 Author Member Share Posted May 29, 2013 you're kidding, right? By comparison of many, many other kung fu movies available on DVD or not even available on DVD, Jackie Chan movies are positively stunning. most of his starring roles have been completely remastered. No, not kidding. Name another star (I'm talking about movie star, not kung fu actor) whose films are constantly cut up, re-edited, rescored, dubbed, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member blue_skies Posted May 29, 2013 Member Share Posted May 29, 2013 No, not kidding. Name another star (I'm talking about movie star, not kung fu actor) whose films are constantly cut up, re-edited, rescored, dubbed, etc. yeah you didn't say that before Thanks, I see massayoda above you says its 1080i. I don't think there is another person in film whose movies are treated worse than Jackie. hence my comment as there was no mention of cut up, re-edited, rescored, dubbed etc etc. Obviously other kung fu and Asian action movies have been given the shaft a lot worse than Jackie Chan. Remastered and available up to 1080i even if they have been re-edited, rescored, dubbed, no original mono etc etc… I'd take that quality for a ton of kung fu movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member reason108 Posted May 30, 2013 Member Share Posted May 30, 2013 I'm guilty of picking this up as well, but Armour of God does look damn good and in actual HD (more than can be said for the Kam and Ronson HK blu). Of course, it's slightly cut (not as bad as the 10 - 20 minutes some of his other films have suffered!), but it's the best quality I've seen. So yeah, Miramax blu ray is in true high definition, but is cut and dubbed, yet the Kam and Ronson blu-ray is uncut and subtitled, but an upconversion (and an upconversion of a less then stellar SD transfer... seriously, Fortune Star's transfer of AoG always looked a bit too reddish/orangish, and the contrast seemed off). I swear, with so many of these movies, we can't have our cake and eat it too! When did a K&R HK blu of AOG come out? I think I missed that one. I know that Operation Condor came out on blu(HK K&R). I bought that one. I thought the quality was really good. Whether it was an upconvert or not, I am glad I got it. I missed out on getting the Joy Sales dvd of OC. And, the only version of this that I have is an old vhs boot and I think the edited US dvd. And, it is fn sad the treatment that these movies have received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member tenebre Posted May 30, 2013 Member Share Posted May 30, 2013 I havent seen a BD release of AOG either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member newgen2005 Posted May 30, 2013 Member Share Posted May 30, 2013 When did a K&R HK blu of AOG come out? I think I missed that one. I know that Operation Condor came out on blu(HK K&R). I bought that one. I thought the quality was really good. Whether it was an upconvert or not, I am glad I got it. I missed out on getting the Joy Sales dvd of OC. And, the only version of this that I have is an old vhs boot and I think the edited US dvd. And, it is fn sad the treatment that these movies have received. As far as I am aware K&R have not released AOG, I have OC and am pleased with it. I also own most of the Japanese releases by Paramount, and the ones by Shout Factory. All the releases are upscales as the sources are from Fortune Star! I don't think we will get anything else as remastering costs loads and the demand just isn't there! All of these films and the Bruce Lee films have been milked to death, people won't keep on double or even triple dipping unless they offer something different! Same old story with the upcoming 40th Annerversary edition of Enter the Dragon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member OldPangYau Posted June 1, 2013 Member Share Posted June 1, 2013 When did a K&R HK blu of AOG come out? I think I missed that one. I know that Operation Condor came out on blu(HK K&R). I bought that one. I thought the quality was really good. Whether it was an upconvert or not, I am glad I got it. I missed out on getting the Joy Sales dvd of OC. And, the only version of this that I have is an old vhs boot and I think the edited US dvd. And, it is fn sad the treatment that these movies have received. I think I jumped the gun when I said that, confusing it for the Japanese blu-ray of AOG... which indeed was an upconvert. As for Supercop, I didn't get that three pack, but I saw Best Buy had on sale a 4 pack of movies that had Supercop, Equillibrium, some Seagal film and some Mark Wahlberg film. Haven't watched Supercop yet, but it's listed as 2.35. Hell, maybe someone can make a 90% HD custom of the HK cut using the US HD transfer for the bulk of the film, and then the SD footage for the HK cut scenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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