Member waywardsage Posted September 28, 2012 Member Share Posted September 28, 2012 Man, the new "47 Ronin" movie Hollywood is fronting is sounding more and more like a train wreck. It's been delayed, and now the director Carl Rinsch has be fired from the film! http://twitchfilm.com/2012/09/carl-rinsch-pulled-from-47-ronin-and-other-troubling-news.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted September 28, 2012 Member Share Posted September 28, 2012 " Reshoots took place in London so that Keanu Reeves' character, Kai, could feature more prominently in the climactic battle - which didn't originally feature him at all. These new scenes apparently pit Kai against a supernatural creature. The studio also added additional lines and a love scene to boost Reeves' presence in the film. Damage control on the production has also included shrinking the post-production staff and only doing visual effects for what the studio knows will make the cut." Sounds excellent...... eeeh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Drunken Cat Posted September 28, 2012 Member Share Posted September 28, 2012 Wow, I'm getting a strange Heaven's Gate vibe. Minus the firing of the director that is. I'm certain that the final product will suffer from this studio interference. Watch this film do virually nothing on it's release. Not that I was really looking forward to another remake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member daisho2004 Posted September 28, 2012 Member Share Posted September 28, 2012 Amen! To everything that was said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member waywardsage Posted September 28, 2012 Author Member Share Posted September 28, 2012 Apparently after the awesomeness that was Miike's remake of 13 Assassin's, Hollywood learned ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about how to make good Chanbara cinema. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DarthKato Posted September 28, 2012 Member Share Posted September 28, 2012 This doesn't really suprise me. Most films made about asia in the US are normally crap. (See: Dragon Ball Z, The Last Samurai, The Forbidden Kingdom, and ect ,ect.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Drunken Cat Posted September 28, 2012 Member Share Posted September 28, 2012 This doesn't really suprise me. Most films made about asia in the US are normally crap. (See: Dragon Ball Z, The Last Samurai, The Forbidden Kingdom, and ect ,ect.) There are exceptions, many of them are from the 80's and 90's though. The Hunted (1995), Year of the Dragon, and The Last Emperor are good examples. Funny enough, there should be more, but I cannot think of any at the moment. Anyway, I think this will turn out to be another John Carter. I doubt it will see anywhere close to a return on the investment, it already over budget alone at $225 million. They might be further ahead just to shelf the whole thing and forget about it. Pushing back the release date by over a year so they can reshoot will just end up costing the studio more money. They got an inexperienced director to make a feature films, throwing him into a project (ie Fincher for Alien 3) and basically to the wolves when he does what they do not wish him to do. Obviously they would of never gave him final cut, but there has to be some very serious problems with the movie for such a long delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member daisho2004 Posted September 28, 2012 Member Share Posted September 28, 2012 See I just gotta say I did enjoy The Last Samurai, I thought it was a very good movie, and I know a lot of people bashed the shit out of it. But yeah I think this movie is going to be a total train wreck but hey you never know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member blue_skies Posted September 29, 2012 Member Share Posted September 29, 2012 See I just gotta say I did enjoy The Last Samurai, I thought it was a very good movie, and I know a lot of people bashed the shit out of it. Dittto:nerd: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Killer Meteor Posted September 29, 2012 Member Share Posted September 29, 2012 What is Keanu Reeves doing in a 47 Ronin film? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member oneskyforall Posted September 29, 2012 Member Share Posted September 29, 2012 Dittto:nerd: Thirded. It is one of my favorite movies actually I didn't really expect it to be a traditional samurai film or anything. On topic. I hope this movie doesn't end up sucking, but I didn't have high hopes for it to begin with. Why are they forcing a love story just to increase Keanu's part??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member John Posted September 29, 2012 Member Share Posted September 29, 2012 HAHAAA! A love story...in 47 Ronin! Oh, Hollywood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DarthKato Posted September 29, 2012 Member Share Posted September 29, 2012 What is Keanu Reeves doing in a 47 Ronin film? Filling the western guy role that hollywood thinks every movie set in asia has to have. Thirded. It is one of my favorite movies actually I didn't really expect it to be a traditional samurai film or anything. On topic. I hope this movie doesn't end up sucking, but I didn't have high hopes for it to begin with. Why are they forcing a love story just to increase Keanu's part??? I just don't like Tom Cruise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Drunken Cat Posted September 29, 2012 Member Share Posted September 29, 2012 I just don't like Tom Cruise. Yeah, you and me both! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted September 29, 2012 Member Share Posted September 29, 2012 Does anyone actually LIKE Tom Cruise?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member ShaOW!linDude Posted September 29, 2012 Member Share Posted September 29, 2012 See I just gotta say I did enjoy The Last Samurai, I thought it was a very good movie, and I know a lot of people bashed the shit out of it. I third that. I have to admit I like a lot of Cruise's action films. He sells his fights on film and he's a good actor. I got nothing for his personal life or beliefs however. But those are his. He's a character. I'm not opposed to a new take on 47 Ronin. I'll certainly be interested to see it when I have the chance. Hope the sword choreography is awesome. Keanu sells his action sequences as well. This isn't the only major film having production issues and going over budget. Brad Pitt's World War Z is doing the same thing and got its release date shoved back something like 6 months. I hope both of these get properly salvaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member AlbertV Posted September 30, 2012 Member Share Posted September 30, 2012 Does anyone actually LIKE Tom Cruise?? I like Cruise as an actor when it comes to certain roles...like I did like The Last Samurai, Top Gun, Days of Thunder, and M:I 2. As a person off-screen, he still irks me, especially when he rants on with the whole Scientology thing, but that's just me and my opinion. Back on topic, IDK how 47 RONIN will look now that the new head of Universal is taking over the editing. It definitely has a solid cast....just now have to see how it will come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member waywardsage Posted December 12, 2012 Author Member Share Posted December 12, 2012 The thing with the 47 Ronin story is that it's pretty much inaccessible to the typical Westerner. Think about it. The main themes are self sacrifice, patience and loyalty to ones superiors....pretty much EVERYTHING that we disregard in todays American society. I just don't see how they could have thought it was a good idea to make an American version of this uniquely Japanese story. 12 year old me would have been excited. But 32 year old me just see's it as a foolish idea to throw 200 million at a story that doesn't translate across cultures that well. And to put an caucasian star as the lead to boot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Killer Meteor Posted December 14, 2012 Member Share Posted December 14, 2012 Just finished watching the 1958 version. Damn good stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DAJIZZARIZZA Posted December 16, 2012 Member Share Posted December 16, 2012 See I just gotta say I did enjoy The Last Samurai, I thought it was a very good movie, and I know a lot of people bashed the shit out of it. But yeah I think this movie is going to be a total train wreck but hey you never know? hey ! you are a BOLD one ain't yee ? lol i too felt that movie was very good ,.. the white man in an area he was not familiar with then morphing into a japanese man "in spirt" right before our eyes was unique and still gave the samurai spirit respect! i'm never a fan,..of a film where the racsist hollywood puts a white man as the main hero eventhough it's obvious a white face do not belong as if there are no good actors or actresses in other walks of life around the globe. how the hell they did not employ a japanese director to do this film in the 1st place insults ME as a fan of the genre. AMERICAN NINJA all over again, i hate films where they try to force a white face in a role not made for him, STOP IT HOLLYWOOD !!! times have changed you lazy bastards! you no longer can get away with CHARLIE CHAN type casting with white faces playing the role (ie: i still love charlie chan films ,.. ). anyway seriously they need to stop. ps: i love white faces ,. especially the ones with "tight bodies" ,.. i'm speaking of women btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted December 16, 2012 Member Share Posted December 16, 2012 Whoa..... you can trash Last Samurai all you want, but i'll be damned if im just gonna sit here and let you besmerch a classic masterpiece like American Ninja!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DAJIZZARIZZA Posted December 16, 2012 Member Share Posted December 16, 2012 Whoa..... you can trash Last Samurai all you want, but i'll be damned if im just gonna sit here and let you besmerch a classic masterpiece like American Ninja!!!!! in ANY country or language ,.... THAT WAS FUNNY !!! LOL :tongue::tongue: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted December 17, 2012 Member Share Posted December 17, 2012 Even though though that was mostly meant as a joke, American Ninja is actually one of my all time favorite movies, and im not ashamed of that. Im a Cannon fan..... what can I say...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Cognoscente Posted May 6, 2021 Member Share Posted May 6, 2021 On 9/28/2012 at 7:15 PM, DarthKato said: This doesn't really suprise me. Most films made about asia in the US are normally crap. (See: Dragon Ball Z, The Last Samurai, The Forbidden Kingdom, and ect ,ect.) Another example: Keanu Reeves was in one such film called Little Buddha. It was kind of a poor man's version of The Last Emperor despite being made by the same director on a bigger budget. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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