Guest Markgway Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Die Another Day is marred by terrible CGI sequences but otherwise has a lot of good stuff. If you're a Bond fan you should give a chance at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted November 10, 2011 Member Share Posted November 10, 2011 When I first watched it, I thought the beginning was really promising. The whole north Korea sequence was awesome, the hovercraft chase, the torture, the exchange, etc. Bond is all beardy and dishevelled, he is distrusted by M and his own people, the heart attack stuff.... it was really different. Then the korean guy with the dream machine making him white came, and Madonna, the invisible car, the tsunami surfing, the sunbeam laser thingy, the ice hotel, the virtual reality training.... it just got dumber and dumber, till I actually couldn't take it anymore! It takes A LOT for a guy who grew up loving Bond as much as I did, to just sit and wait for a Bond flick to fucking end already!!!!! Haven't really cared about the franchise since. Yeah, I watch the new ones, and pick em up for cheap. But I don't really care that much anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member massa_yoda Posted November 10, 2011 Member Share Posted November 10, 2011 I own all of them.... except Die Another Day.... won't have it in my home! Haha, exactly. I ended my relationship with the Bond franchise after seeing Die Another Day (DAD) in the theaters. Fortunately, Casino Royale redeemed it for me. They really did a great job rebooting Bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yi-Long Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I love Casino Royale. I love Craig as Bond. Perfect. I hated Quantum of Solace. It's not a Bond movie, it's an action movie, and they fucked up the action with the usual shaky cam bullshit and MTV-editing, so it's a crappy action movie. The director should be shot in the face. Repeatedly. Preferably from lots of different angles. Dont know what to expect from Skyfall. It has a very good director attached, but if they screw up all the action again and make the same mistakes they did with Quantum, then we'll be disappointed again. Other than that there's absolutely nothing to say about it yet, considering we don't know anything about it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Shaolivevil Posted November 11, 2011 Member Share Posted November 11, 2011 To pick the best Bond, you have to compare the screen portrayal against the character Ian Fleming created in his novels. The closest anyone came to capturing that character is Timothy Dalton, the seemingly cold killer seeking vengeance from Licence to Kill is almost the exact person Fleming created on paper. Its ashame, like Lazenby, that Dalton only had a limited crack at the role-although Lazenby quit the role so thats his fault-as I think Dalton could have become the definitive Bond. I agree. James Bond in the original novels from Ian Fleming had a colder, more ruthless edge to him that the Bond actors weren't able to tap into like Timothy Dalton did. I would have loved to see him do at least one or two more Bond films... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yi-Long Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Dalton was great indeed. A shame he was stuck in some mediocre movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted November 11, 2011 Member Share Posted November 11, 2011 I beg to differ. Yes, Dalton was great. But I think Living Daylights is one of the best Bond flicks of all time. And Licence To Kill, despite its flaws, is an awesome action film, maybe more than it is a Bond film. The problem is that it looked too much like the other action films of the time...Lethal Weapon, Die Hard etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member daisho2004 Posted November 11, 2011 Member Share Posted November 11, 2011 I didn't like Dalton at all as Bond! But yes License to Kill was a Great Bond Flick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Dalton was great indeed. A shame he was stuck in some mediocre movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yi-Long Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Well, Living Daylights starts out pretty great, nice pacing, nice setting, great Dalton as Bond, yet somewhere in the 2nd half it just kinda loses me... ... and License to Kill was OK, but as mentioned, it's more a bit of an action flick with some corny stuff in it, and although Dalton was great again, I just didn't care much for the story, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member massa_yoda Posted November 12, 2011 Member Share Posted November 12, 2011 Well, Living Daylights starts out pretty great, nice pacing, nice setting, great Dalton as Bond, yet somewhere in the 2nd half it just kinda loses me... ... and License to Kill was OK, but as mentioned, it's more a bit of an action flick with some corny stuff in it, and although Dalton was great again, I just didn't care much for the story, Yeah, I remember the first half being better, but still good overall. So much more energy than A View to a Kill! License to Kill, at times this feels like an expensive episode of Miami Vice, but it does have some 'Bond' moments in it too. A decent change of pace. And some of those truck stunts in the finale....I remember being FLOORED by that action sequence. Also, does anyone remember the old Bond video game that came out for Sega in 93? They used Dalton's likeness in that game, so his legacy lived on just a little bit after LTK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member BaronK Posted November 12, 2011 Member Share Posted November 12, 2011 Didn't mind Dalton himself. He came out during the aids period, so they had to do different things with him. I love LTK. Fantastic theme song and a very entertaining action movie. Action movie stressed. Doesn't feel like a Bond movie at all though. TLD bores the crap out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DiP Posted November 12, 2011 Member Share Posted November 12, 2011 I would say either Lazenby or Dalton were/are the perfect Bond, closely followed by Craig. Apart from Dr. No and FRWL, Connery didn't do much for me and neither did Brosnan (good enough in Goldeneye). Moore was on some other stuff (over the top, hilarious stuff) so he and his Bond films are non-existent for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Shaolivevil Posted November 12, 2011 Member Share Posted November 12, 2011 I sometimes like to wonder what if Tony Hamilton became James Bond instead of Timothy Dalton. I remember reading that he was in talks with Albert Broccoli back in the mid 80's about being him after Roger Moore left and was strongly considered. I liked him as Max Hart in the Mission: Impossible series in 1988 and IMHO probably would've played Bond well. Too bad he wasn't in more movies or TV. He died in 1995 from AIDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member popsjnr Posted November 13, 2011 Member Share Posted November 13, 2011 Dont forget Brosnan was signed to play Bond in Living Daylights, but the studio that made Remington Steele suddenly redlit another season when they heard that, and this delay in production allowed Dalton to become available. I doubt Brosnan, who WAS a great Bond-even though most of the films let him down-could have brought the gravitas needed for the way that Bond was going to be portrayed, at the age he was then. As I say Dalton, along with Lazenby, are my favourite Bonds, and should have done more. The producers,Brocoli and Saltzman, should have made some of the Bonds (specifically Thunderball, You Only Live Twice and OHMSS) in the order the books were published (Thunderball, OHMSS and YOLT) as they are direct sequels. The book description of Bond after his wife Tracy's death in YOLT is particularly impressive and the vengeance filled rage that consumes him when, by accident, he discovers Blofeld in Japan, recalls Dalton in LtK, and also Craig in the underrated QoS as he searhes for answers for Vesper's betrayal-I just hope the next one is a direct follow on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member massa_yoda Posted November 13, 2011 Member Share Posted November 13, 2011 The producers,Brocoli and Saltzman, should have made some of the Bonds (specifically Thunderball, You Only Live Twice and OHMSS) in the order the books were published (Thunderball, OHMSS and YOLT) as they are direct sequels. This is really interesting! I can't believe they didn't follow the books here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yi-Long Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I thought Brosnan was a terrible Bond. Just looked like a Ken Barbiedoll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I thought Brosnan was good. Any flaws in the films weren't his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member blue_skies Posted November 14, 2011 Member Share Posted November 14, 2011 I also liked Pierce Brosnan and thought he was an excellent James Bond, was sad to see him go and even more so to see him replaced by Daniel Craig… And now after two movies I'm even less convinced and look forward to his era to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member popsjnr Posted November 26, 2011 Member Share Posted November 26, 2011 I see in December's edition of Empire magazine, they reveal that Skyfall WONT feature Quantum as the criminal orginisation, perhaps their going to bring on S.P.E.C.T.R.E in it's place?? Shame really as I enjoyed QoS immensely, maybe a shade (too much?) Bourne-esque, but at least it was fast paced....and I am a bit dubious about Mendes directing, still I cant wait to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I hope they come back to Quantum in a future film after spending so much time building it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member shukocarl Posted November 26, 2011 Member Share Posted November 26, 2011 I doubt SPECTRE will return, as the rights are not held by EON / SONY. I think it's time for a more 'traditional' Bond flick without the shitty action editing - more like FRWL or OHMSS. Something with a good story, a touch of the fantastic and a bigger than life villain. IMHO Timothy Dalton WAS Bond...read Fleming. George COULD have become the BEST, Sean was fantastic until he got bored, Roger was....well...Roger but he had his moments too (Killing Stromberg in SWLM and the car/cliff scene in FYEO). Pierce made ONE good film-his debut...Daniel is NOT Bond IMO but perfect for the Bourne Identity et al fans. Good actor, great physicality but neither looks nor comes across as Commander James Bond RNVR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 The fact that Roger Moore was so tongue-in-cheek made his cold-blooded moments all the more memorable. The scene on the cliff in For Your Eyes Only is terrific. I love the expression on his face and the venom with which his kicks the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member mpm74 Posted November 26, 2011 Member Share Posted November 26, 2011 The scene on the cliff in For Your Eyes Only is terrific. I love the expression on his face and the venom with which his kicks the car. Also the scene where he smacks Maud Adams (Golden Gun). =D I'm still surprised how many people dislike Diamonds Are Forever. That movie is essentially a Quentin Taratino flick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yi-Long Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Also the scene where he smacks Maud Adams (Golden Gun). =D I'm still surprised how many people dislike Diamonds Are Forever. That movie is essentially a Quentin Taratino flick! Probably cause it had an extremely lazy and uninspired chubby looking wig-wearing Connery collecting a paycheck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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