Member massa_yoda Posted November 3, 2011 Member Share Posted November 3, 2011 A couple weekends ago I saw SHAOLIN PRINCE for the first time and WOW it was just what I needed. What a pick me up. This one had pretty everything you could want out of an old-school classic, goofy humor, blazing choreography, creative weapons, crazy kung-fu monks, and so on. The opening fight was crazy good, though I must say those were some of the most serene babies ever! The fighters protecting them were flipping all over the place. The three monks were also great, perfectly over-the-top. I loved the scene where they were on pogo sticks to keep off the ground. Other highlights were the sword duel between Derek Yee and his teacher, the flaming sword and water sword team-ups (they lit Yee on fire and he still continues a sequence of movements before the camera cuts!!!), and the big finale with the bad guy sitting in a chair full of surprises. They really put a lot of work into this one. I have not seen director Tong Gaai's (AKA Tang Chia) other works, Shaolin Intruders and Opium and the Kung Fu Master, but I hear they are good too. What's everyone's favorite here? Do these other two have the same tone as Shaolin Prince? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member RogueWarrior Posted November 3, 2011 Member Share Posted November 3, 2011 did you spot Yuen Biao in the opening scene? (well, when Yuen Wah got to the temple with the baby) Tong Gai also has a cameo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member ShaOW!linDude Posted November 3, 2011 Member Share Posted November 3, 2011 I watched this, like, last week from when I'd dvr'ed it off of FuelTV the other weekend. It's definitely one of the better Shaws they've shown since I started tuning in. I'd consider scoring this on dvd at some point. I thought I recognized Yuen Wah but I totally missed Yuen Biao. Drag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member massa_yoda Posted November 3, 2011 Author Member Share Posted November 3, 2011 did you spot Yuen Biao in the opening scene? (well, when Yuen Wah got to the temple with the baby) Tong Gai also has a cameo I saw Yuen Wah, but missed Biao. I'll have to re-watch when I track this down on DVD. I see FUNimation released this, but I'm sure the availability is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member RogueWarrior Posted November 3, 2011 Member Share Posted November 3, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT3Ydp6Eg6E 10:13 second from the right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member blue_skies Posted November 3, 2011 Member Share Posted November 3, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT3Ydp6Eg6E 10:13 second from the right! how do you get the "CC" subs to work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member RogueWarrior Posted November 3, 2011 Member Share Posted November 3, 2011 FYI, its not my channel..; However I clicked on the CC after reading your post and selected English and there they were displayed. Then I selected TURN OFF and they were not displayed. Same for the Turkish subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member massa_yoda Posted November 3, 2011 Author Member Share Posted November 3, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT3Ydp6Eg6E 10:13 second from the right! Awesome! Thanks. Subs worked fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member blue_skies Posted November 4, 2011 Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 FYI, its not my channel..; However I clicked on the CC after reading your post and selected English and there they were displayed. Then I selected TURN OFF and they were not displayed. Same for the Turkish subs Oh I see! you need to click the little CC button on screen. All I could see was the interactive thingy beneath the picture presumably translating or showing a translation but I couldn't see the film at the same time as seeing that . Is it possible to download the movie with the subtitles? Knowing my luck by the time I get around to watching it and will be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator KUNG FU BOB Posted November 4, 2011 Administrator Share Posted November 4, 2011 A couple weekends ago I saw SHAOLIN PRINCE for the first time and WOW it was just what I needed. What a pick me up. This one had pretty everything you could want out of an old-school classic, goofy humor, blazing choreography, creative weapons, crazy kung-fu monks, and so on. Well said bro! Yes, this movie is a ton of fun. I have not seen director Tong Gaai's (AKA Tang Chia) other works, Shaolin Intruders and Opium and the Kung Fu Master, but I hear they are good too. What's everyone's favorite here? Do these other two have the same tone as Shaolin Prince? They're all really good. Hard for me to pick a favorite among them. In OPIUM Ti Lung gives a superb performance, and tears up some baddies with his usual grace. But SHAOLIN INTRUDERS features bad guys with three-piece staffs which they throw through people! Too hard to choose a favorite among them. Highly recommend that you see them all. did you spot Yuen Biao in the opening scene? (well, when Yuen Wah got to the temple with the baby) Tong Gai also has a cameo I remember seeing this film on VHS back in the late 80's or early 90's under the title DEATH MASK OF THE NINJA. Which I must say, is one of the most inappropriate titles ever! I love it's other aka. IRON FINGERS OF DEATH. At the time I hadn't seen a ton of Shaw Brothers films, but had watched lots of Golden Harvest stuff. I was shocked to see Biao and Wah in this film. Before that, I'd had no idea that they ever appeared in SB stuff. It was an exciting geek moment for me when I spotted them in there. I'll have to re-watch when I track this down on DVD. I see FUNimation released this, but I'm sure the availability is terrible. I've seen this on both eBay and Amazon for cheap. Well worth owning. I loved this movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member massa_yoda Posted November 4, 2011 Author Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 But SHAOLIN INTRUDERS features bad guys with three-piece staffs which they throw through people! DUDE! I remember seeing this film on VHS back in the late 80's or early 90's under the title DEATH MASK OF THE NINJA. Check out imdb.com and they have the old cover art and everything. Needless to say, half the reviews for the movie start with 'well I expected to see ninjas, but...' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member waywardsage Posted November 4, 2011 Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 Am watching Shaolin Prince and was wondering if the strange weapon that the monks are training with in the monastery is a real weapon. It looks like two sabres joined together by a half moon guard. What weapon is this? What style uses it? Also, is the iron fingers a real weapon or a Shaw Brothers fantasy creation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member BaronK Posted November 4, 2011 Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 Thats not Biu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member BaronK Posted November 4, 2011 Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 Tong Gaai was a very creative man. He love to make weapons for pictures. Whether it be something in itself that was different, or something that morphed into something else(Fu Sheng's Boot/Sleeve knives, Ti Lung's 3SS that became 2 weapons, Lo Lieh's staff that became a 3SS in Vengeful Beauty, Chan Wei Man's singular blade(Proud Youth) that became that blade you mentioned in regard to Shaolin Prince, Wang Yu's umbrella sword, his spinning blade crew RotOAS, Chen Kuan Tai's pole/spear from RwD, the swords from Death Duel, the Magic Blade, fish bone swords, etc) Nobody did it, or came up with the things he did. Great man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member waywardsage Posted November 4, 2011 Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 was he the creator of most of the bizarre kung fu weapons seen in most of the Shaw films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member waywardsage Posted November 4, 2011 Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 Well said bro! Yes, this movie is a ton of fun. They're all really good. Hard for me to pick a favorite among them. In OPIUM Ti Lung gives a superb performance, and tears up some baddies with his usual grace. But SHAOLIN INTRUDERS features bad guys with three-piece staffs which they throw through people! Too hard to choose a favorite among them. Highly recommend that you see them all. I've seen OPIUM. It's pretty good. Has some fun fights. Lots of wire-fu. A LOT of melodrama about the students sifu being addicted to drugs. But, at least it was a change up from the typical "revenge" plot in most Shaws. I remember seeing this film on VHS back in the late 80's or early 90's under the title DEATH MASK OF THE NINJA. Which I must say, is one of the most inappropriate titles ever! I love it's other aka. IRON FINGERS OF DEATH. At the time I hadn't seen a ton of Shaw Brothers films, but had watched lots of Golden Harvest stuff. I was shocked to see Biao and Wah in this film. Before that, I'd had no idea that they ever appeared in SB stuff. It was an exciting geek moment for me when I spotted them in there. I'll have to go back and check this. I didn't notice him. I've seen this on both eBay and Amazon for cheap. Well worth owning. I loved this movie! Yes, Funimation has it. I just watched my DVD of it for the first time tonight. It was awesome! I put it in the player tonight and saw this thread on the forum and was totally stoked to watch it! The chair scene was insane! I have to say, the bizarre kung fu weapons in this film were great too! The iron fingers were strange. Were there ever real weapons like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Tosh Posted November 4, 2011 Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 Been a while since I seen this, I definitely liked Shaolin Intruders better, I think the part with Ti Lung's teacher's got on my nerves a bit on Prince, that chair was awesome though - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member jmungus Posted November 4, 2011 Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 yay. shaolin prince!! one of the best kf movies ever period. theres so much stuff EXPERTLY squeezed into it- lavish sets, original weaponry, diverse characters, change of moods, fun plot, amusing wackiness, seriously badass gung, great cast, high replay value. 10 of 10. choreography-wise, the intruders are equally awesome and even more over the top crazy in an amazing way. other aspects of SI are not quite on par with SP, hence "only" 8.7/10. OATKFM is kind of a different animal. still great- 8/10. so much for my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member RogueWarrior Posted November 4, 2011 Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 Thats not Biu. look again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member BaronK Posted November 4, 2011 Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 I did. I didn't glimpse. That's not Biu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator KUNG FU BOB Posted November 4, 2011 Administrator Share Posted November 4, 2011 DUDE! Yes! The three-piece staff is one of my favorite weapons- both to watch on screen, and to train with- so I freaked when I saw this scene. My buddy Mike and I both sat up straight and started yelling "No way!" when that scene came up. Though I've tried to replicate this three-piece staff body-piercing technique, so far I've had no luck, and I'm rapidly running out of willing participants and spots to bury bodies in my yard. Check out imdb.com and they have the old cover art and everything. Needless to say, half the reviews for the movie start with 'well I expected to see ninjas, but...' I actually owned that original VHS. Silly ninja-filled cover painting too! I picked it up from a video store in Philly that was going out-of-business. I don't think I have it anymore though. If memory serves me, it was one of the (hundreds of ) tapes that I lost in a basement flood. I used to recommend this one to martial arts fans when I worked at a video store. I would always preface my rec with "Now despite the title, there aren't any ninjas in this film". Lots of older dudes would return it and say "I saw this in the theater when I was a kid, but it had a different title. It was a great surprise to see it again". Thats not Biu. Not to be argumentative, but I'm pretty sure it is him. I zoomed the picture in enough to fill my 52" screen with his face, and I'm certain that's Yuen Biao. Yes, Funimation has it. I just watched my DVD of it for the first time tonight. It was awesome! I put it in the player tonight and saw this thread on the forum and was totally stoked to watch it! Right on! That's what this forum is supposed to be about. Sharing joy and knowledge of this stuff, and seeking new info. Love it! The iron fingers were strange. Were there ever real weapons like this? Indeed! I actually just took off my Iron Fingers so that I could type this response. (You only need to lose one keyboard to know that they aren't meant for typing! ) LOL Kidding aside, I'm not sure about that weapon being an actual historical artifact. It doesn't seem too far-fetched though. Been a while since I seen this, I definitely liked Shaolin Intruders better, I think the part with Ti Lung's teacher's got on my nerves a bit on Prince, that chair was awesome though - I agree with you Tosh. I could have done with a little less slapstick. And "The Chair"? Awesome! You know a villain is a bad ass when he doesn't even have to get down from his chair to whoop some ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member KyFi Posted November 4, 2011 Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 Undoubtedly some of the weapons in Shaw movies were created by Tong Gaai and others, although there do seem to be a lot of weird weapons in the real kung fu traditions. I was hoping this article was online with the pictures, but all I could find was the text: http://www.kungfumagazine.com/info/weapons.php And not to argue with myself, but one of the MA teachers I've studied with is also a dealer in historical/antique Chinese arms and armor, and he's said that antique spears, sabers and swords are fairly common, but actual historical examples of some of the stranger weapons are very, very rare---they're probably more popular in movies and modern kung fu practice than they ever were in real combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member BaronK Posted November 4, 2011 Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 Go to 10:19-10:21. Freeze it, blow it up. You can see from the profile that that's not Biu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted November 4, 2011 Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 It's not Yuen Biao, It's Lung Ying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member RogueWarrior Posted November 4, 2011 Member Share Posted November 4, 2011 Bingo! Oh well, I thought it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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