Member 66 Mantis Posted August 13, 2011 Member Share Posted August 13, 2011 I've always been a big fan of Liang Chia Jen and while writing my review blog review Mantis Fist Fighter, it hit me that I still don't know exactly where the "Beardy" nickname came from. I always thought it was an affectionate fan term because I don't recall him ever being called by that name in any movie. Also curious as to when that name was first used. My best guess is that it goes back to Sleeping Fist, but I'm not sure. Can anyone shed some light on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member kurtz Posted August 14, 2011 Member Share Posted August 14, 2011 I always thought that it came about from the RickBaker Kung Fu show Scala era in London. He had apparently termed "Heroic Bloodshed" also. May pre-date that though, not sure. Either way, never tire of saying I miss those days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member ShaOW!linDude Posted August 14, 2011 Member Share Posted August 14, 2011 Hmmm. This is an interesting question. I bet there'll be lots of answers. I once saw this mentioned in either TOP FIGHTER or THE DEADLIEST ART (videos about MA stars). If I recall properly, it was the French who coined the nickname "Beardy". They were big fans of him and all his early releases there in France were apparently of his films in which he had a beard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted August 14, 2011 Member Share Posted August 14, 2011 Ric Meyers talks a little bit about on his (and Bobby Samuels) commentary for THE VICTIM. Believe what you want from his mouth, though. What does he say?? That Leung Kar Yan was born with a full beard, and use to twirl it, while frolicking in the fields with his brothers, Leung Chiu Wai and Leung Siu Hung?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member 66 Mantis Posted August 14, 2011 Author Member Share Posted August 14, 2011 Ric Meyers talks a little bit about on his (and Bobby Samuels) commentary for THE VICTIM. Believe what you want from his mouth, though. What's kind of ironic is that the question was posed to me on Facebook by none other than Bill Connelly (who co founded M.A.M.A. with Ric). I didn't know it's origin either, so I figured I'd try my luck on this board. I also have Ric as a Facebook friend and he has yet to chime in with anything. Maybe it was Baker as kurtz suggested... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member kurtz Posted August 14, 2011 Member Share Posted August 14, 2011 Interestingly, I see "Top Fighter" Documentary mentioned above ..It was Rick Baker (Eastern Heroes) and Toby Russell whom made it I believe.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I would guess Rick Baker also. Most of these nicknames came from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member 66 Mantis Posted August 14, 2011 Author Member Share Posted August 14, 2011 Hmmm. This is an interesting question. I bet there'll be lots of answers. I once saw this mentioned in either TOP FIGHTER or THE DEADLIEST ART (videos about MA stars). If I recall properly, it was the French who coined the nickname "Beardy". They were big fans of him and all his early releases there in France were apparently of his films in which he had a beard. Now that I think about it, it may very well have been Top Fighter that mentioned his popularity in France. Haven't watched that documentary in many years, but that suddenly sounded too familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Asmo Posted August 15, 2011 Moderator Share Posted August 15, 2011 Interesting to hear Bobby lived with Sammo for 2 years. Bobby also mentioned the racism in HK and even with Sammo in DON'T GIVE GIVE A DAMN. He seems to have some hostility towards Sammo now and doesn't seem to be on the friendliest terms. It's a shame Ric cuts the conversation short. Bobby also states that Chang Yi is from Indonesia? Not to derail the thread, but Bobby also talks about living with Sammo in the special features for HKL's release of Winners and Sinners (I think?). He goes into some depth. Celestial's biography for Chang Yi says he was born in Guangdong, and retired to Canada. I wonder how correct those bios are though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted August 15, 2011 Member Share Posted August 15, 2011 And I think that Don Wong Tao says on one of his commentaries that Chang Yi is taiwanese...... If only these people could get their facts straight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member masterofoneinchpunch Posted August 15, 2011 Member Share Posted August 15, 2011 Hmm, after rewatching THE VICTIM commentary, Ric doesn't really mention it. Other than saying most Asian men can't grow or maintain facial hair. It's one of his better commentaries, though. Interesting to hear Bobby lived with Sammo for 2 years. Bobby also mentioned the racism in HK and even with Sammo in DON'T GIVE GIVE A DAMN. He seems to have some hostility towards Sammo now and doesn't seem to be on the friendliest terms. It's a shame Ric cuts the conversation short. Bobby also states that Chang Yi is from Indonesia? It's a great commentary, but yeah the nickname they were discussing was Chan Lung's. I took detailed notes here. Bobby is definitely not happy with Sammo. One thing I noticed was that Ric Meyer's in his latest book seems to take more of an anti-Sammo approach, not taking away from what he done, but stating that Sammo was his own worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TibetanWhiteCrane Posted August 15, 2011 Member Share Posted August 15, 2011 Anti Sammo approach.... please.... Pig Meyer is not even fit to clean up Sammo's feces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member masterofoneinchpunch Posted August 15, 2011 Member Share Posted August 15, 2011 Beardy Strikes Back! by Mike Fury I think it is probably impossible to figure the origin of his nickname and would question someone who stated they were the first. It is such a generic nickname (I like it) that it is easy to see anyone just call him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Akuma Posted August 15, 2011 Member Share Posted August 15, 2011 Interesting thread. I will call Rick Baker himself and put this question to him and get back to you all tomorrow. I'm sure he knows where the nickname started from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member shapes Posted August 16, 2011 Member Share Posted August 16, 2011 the nick name Beardy comes from the Brixton late night massive , Dave Sinkler, Roger Sinkler, Wing Chun Des, The Dread called Dettt!, Lance and a few others.in fact a lot of nick names for kung fu stars stem form there 1976-85ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member kurtz Posted August 16, 2011 Member Share Posted August 16, 2011 Hey Akuma, You obviously know Rick, What's he upto these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Black.Dragon Posted August 16, 2011 Member Share Posted August 16, 2011 The nickname was used to refer to him in the 70s by the West Indian community in New York City. Got the info from Ground Zero version of " Shaolin Kingboxer" dvd under special features bios. Don't know how accurate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Akuma Posted August 31, 2011 Member Share Posted August 31, 2011 1Y79L1wBndo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member teako170 Posted August 31, 2011 Member Share Posted August 31, 2011 Rick Baker Himself From the horses mouth.... Excellent upload Akuma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Who stole his beard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member kurtz Posted September 2, 2011 Member Share Posted September 2, 2011 Great stuff Akuma! Looks younger than he did back in the day! Say hello to him from an original member of the "jcfc" ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Asmo Posted September 2, 2011 Moderator Share Posted September 2, 2011 The nickname was used to refer to him in the 70s by the West Indian community in New York City. Got the info from Ground Zero version of " Shaolin Kingboxer" dvd under special features bios. Don't know how accurate ? Bey Logan said in at least one commentary that he was nicknamed 'The Brigadier' by some Jamaican kung fu film fans. Maybe the West Indians in NY called him that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member 66 Mantis Posted September 2, 2011 Author Member Share Posted September 2, 2011 1Y79L1wBndo Thanks for sharing that. Sounds right, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Akuma Posted September 6, 2011 Member Share Posted September 6, 2011 Great stuff Akuma! Looks younger than he did back in the day! Say hello to him from an original member of the "jcfc" ! I will do mate...BTW - I'll be uploading more clips of Rick soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member sifu iron perm Posted September 7, 2011 Member Share Posted September 7, 2011 Hey Ak, Does Rick still trade in that Computer fair in stratford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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