Member lillippa328 Posted May 13, 2011 Member Share Posted May 13, 2011 wow whatt an excellent samurai film!!!!! just watched it, loved it, very awsome, and realistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Black.Dragon Posted May 15, 2011 Member Share Posted May 15, 2011 I just watched it last night and I highly recommend it to all old school samurai film fans. I'm not a big fan of Takashi Miike films, even though my travels have lead me to own quite a few. 13 Assassins is definitely one of his more polished outputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Space Posted May 15, 2011 Member Share Posted May 15, 2011 from another thread Really? I haven't seen the film, but it's rated pg-12 in Japan... I don't think Japan counts. Dragon Ball is a kids show and it has scenes with Goku punching bloody holes through people and a wackjob using a sniper rifle to take out a puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DeathFuMaster Posted May 16, 2011 Member Share Posted May 16, 2011 I don't think Japan counts. Dragon Ball is a kids show and it has scenes with Goku punching bloody holes through people and a wackjob using a sniper rifle to take out a puppy. Not to mention female butts and male private areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yi-Long Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Not to mention female butts and male private areas. Ow no, gawd forbid if a kid ever sees a female butt or some dude's penis...(!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Takuma Posted May 16, 2011 Member Share Posted May 16, 2011 Ow no, gawd forbid if a kid ever sees a female butt or some dude's penis...(!) He might take influence and some day... make love to a woman Better play it safe and let him understand everything related to human body and sexuality is filthy and forbidden... so that he will surely be afraid and embarrased to ever ask advice and will get some teenager pregnant by accident... unless he develops into a rapist before that Sorry, that was uncalled for, wasn't targeted at DeathFuMaster or anyone else, just one those things that piss me off in some cultures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Space Posted May 16, 2011 Member Share Posted May 16, 2011 He might take influence and some day... make love to a woman Better play it safe and let him understand everything related to human body and sexuality is filthy and forbidden... so that he will surely be afraid and embarrased to ever ask advice and will get some teenager pregnant by accident... unless he develops into a rapist before that Sorry, that was uncalled for, wasn't targeted at DeathFuMaster or anyone else, just one those things that piss me off in some cultures... Well if anyone has a problem with rapes... http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/05/15/us-japan-rape-idUST17815620070515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DeathFuMaster Posted May 16, 2011 Member Share Posted May 16, 2011 He might take influence and some day... make love to a woman Better play it safe and let him understand everything related to human body and sexuality is filthy and forbidden... so that he will surely be afraid and embarrased to ever ask advice and will get some teenager pregnant by accident... unless he develops into a rapist before that Sorry, that was uncalled for, wasn't targeted at DeathFuMaster or anyone else, just one those things that piss me off in some cultures... No offense taken, I actually agree with you. Americans are a little too sheltered when it comes to these things. I was just adding more things in Dragon Ball that would not be acceptable in American kid's cartoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Takuma Posted May 16, 2011 Member Share Posted May 16, 2011 Well if anyone has a problem with rapes... http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/05/15/us-japan-rape-idUST17815620070515 If you wanna go comparing... Amount of rapes (2006) Japan: 1,948 reported, estimated to be more than 10 times the amount --> 20, 000 (source) USA: 92,757 (source) Population (2006) USA: 299 million (source) Japan: 128 million (source) Adjusted rape ratio Japan: 1,00 USA: 1,99 Japan's main problem is with the side effect of old traditions and believes,including minding your own business (leads into cases such as the one reported above, sadly, nothing new in Japan), keeping face (leads into unreported crimes), male domination (leads into "justified crimes"...), and social hierachy. These aren't easy issues to solve as the factors causing them (often as side effect) are deeply rooted in history and culture. Japan has a lot to improve on. Not to mention the rotten police force. That being said, Japan is one of the safest countries in the world. In comparison, USA is a very dangerous country to live in... Again, this was not intended as personal attack, or even much of an argument about anything. It was simply a reply to your post which I considered to make quite a misleading point (probably just unintentionally misleading wording on your part). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member wigsplitta Posted May 17, 2011 Member Share Posted May 17, 2011 Just noticed that 13 Assassins is playing today at my local cinema! Sweeeeeet. This'll be the first Samurai film that i'll have ever seen on the big screen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator KUNG FU BOB Posted May 17, 2011 Administrator Share Posted May 17, 2011 Ah Captain Wiggins, I'm excited for ya! I'm definitely curious what you'll think of it, so please let us know. I've been chomping at the bit for this one, but after hearing rumours it would be playing in theaters around here, I've held off on watching it at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member wigsplitta Posted May 19, 2011 Member Share Posted May 19, 2011 Well, I very much enjoyed the film. Only downside was that I missed approx. 10 minutes because the cinema kept screwing up and stopping the film! (I say stopping, but although there was nothing on screen and the lights came up, when the film resumed it was definitley later on in the movie!) This meant that I missed the introduction of the 13th Assassin! Have to agree with others that he seems like a Kami character. He contradicts a lot of their ways and points them in different directions to boost their confidence and help them win. The end fight scene was truly epic. Even when it was interupted by 5 mins of blank screen, it was still going strongly when it returned! Great to see Hiroki Matsukata too. He doesn't seem to have aged in the last 30 years!!! Bob - just like any Martial Arts film - the bigger the better. If you can get the chance to see it at the cinema then take the chance. It is a really nicely shot film with some great action scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member OpiumKungFuCracker Posted May 19, 2011 Member Share Posted May 19, 2011 Well, I very much enjoyed the film. Only downside was that I missed approx. 10 minutes because the cinema kept screwing up and stopping the film! (I say stopping, but although there was nothing on screen and the lights came up, when the film resumed it was definitley later on in the movie!) This meant that I missed the introduction of the 13th Assassin! Have to agree with others that he seems like a Kami character. He contradicts a lot of their ways and points them in different directions to boost their confidence and help them win. The end fight scene was truly epic. Even when it was interupted by 5 mins of blank screen, it was still going strongly when it returned! Great to see Hiroki Matsukata too. He doesn't seem to have aged in the last 30 years!!! Bob - just like any Martial Arts film - the bigger the better. If you can get the chance to see it at the cinema then take the chance. It is a really nicely shot film with some great action scenes. I've been to at least 5 movies this year and I've experience that same problem with the lights coming up unexpectedly, screen goes blank/froze.. They need to do a better job at projecting these movies onscreen, it really does take away the movie going experience, AMC SUCKS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Space Posted May 23, 2011 Member Share Posted May 23, 2011 from another thread Really? I haven't seen the film, but it's rated pg-12 in Japan... Saw it last night, it's a "hard R" for American audiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator One Armed Boxer Posted June 16, 2011 Moderator Share Posted June 16, 2011 Wah...the hardest thing about this movie is deciding which thread to post my thoughts in! This one, the 'Takashi Miike 13 Assassins Remake' one, the '13 Assassins Blu-ray' one, the....well, nevermind...what happened to the days when the moderators used to be on the ball about merging threads!? Great movie....not much to say that hasn't been said before. I'm interested to know exactly what is missing out of the international cut, as I've only watched the Japanese DVD. For anyone who understands Japanese I would point out it's well worth picking up the special edition, as it comes with a limited edition storyboard book which is really interesting to compare to the actual scenes in the movie. I was very pleasently surprised by the performance of Goro Inagaki as the main villain of the piece. As a member of one of Japan's leading idol groups SMAP (Shingo Katori is also a member, who played the latest incarnation of 'Zatoichi', as well as Takuya Kimura, who was the lead in the samurai movie 'Love & Honor', & also starred alongside Lee Byung-hun in 'I Come with the Rain'). He really provided a great antagonist for us to root against and thankfully didn't attempt to come across as a sword master (Shingo Katori take note). The final epic battle actually reminded me of the finale from the Wang Yu flick 'Beach of the War Gods', which also had that similar grand scale of a small group against hundreds, and in both movies it was exceuted beautifully. It was very intense and you could really sense the exhaustion mixed with desperation of the characters in their final moments, highly recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member daisho2004 Posted July 10, 2011 Member Share Posted July 10, 2011 13 Assassins is out on R1 DVD Picked up mine Yesterday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Lionclaw Posted July 10, 2011 Member Share Posted July 10, 2011 I finally watched the full movie yesterday and I'll pick up a copy later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member daisho2004 Posted July 10, 2011 Member Share Posted July 10, 2011 Lionclaw: What did u think of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member JimPV Posted July 10, 2011 Member Share Posted July 10, 2011 Saw this in it's limited theatrical run here in Atlanta recently, and thought it was terrific. I was confused (as others were) by the survival of one of the characters. That, and some obvious CGI blood spurting were my only complaints. Great seeing Tsuyoshi Ihara from Gamera: Guardian of the Universe and Letters from Iwo Jima as the master swordsman. I'm interested to know exactly what is missing out of the international cut, as I've only watched the Japanese DVD. I've read that Miike himself cut out an extended brothel scene (aprox. 20 minutes or so) for us westerners. He said something about us here in the west not wanting to wait too long to get to the action. Is this restored for the DVD/blu-ray release here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member OpiumKungFuCracker Posted July 10, 2011 Member Share Posted July 10, 2011 saw this in it's limited theatrical run here in atlanta recently, and thought it was terrific. I was confused (as others were) by the survival of one of the characters. That, and some obvious cgi blood spurting were my only complaints. Great seeing tsuyoshi ihara from gamera: Guardian of the universe and letters from iwo jima as the master swordsman. I've read that miike himself cut out an extended brothel scene (aprox. 20 minutes or so) for us westerners. He said something about us here in the west not wanting to wait too long to get to the action. Is this restored for the dvd/blu-ray release here? ******spoiler********** from wikipedia: "throughout the film, it is hinted that kiga is not a human, as the woman he talks about, upashi, is seen in a flashback eating raw meat by a pond, blood is shown trickling down her legs; and this may be due to her consumption of her unborn fetus, an act a demon would perform. The type of demon upashi and kiga are may not be evil, but rather like mountain spirits. Upon meeting him, kiga says he was abandoned for laying his hands on the boss's woman. This statement has two meanings, as he does not say that he is a bandit, mercenary, or soldier, but someone who hunts animals from mountain to mountain. Therefore, by "the boss", he could mean the head yoki—the yoki were a type of demon from folklore." source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_assassins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Lionclaw Posted July 11, 2011 Member Share Posted July 11, 2011 Lionclaw: What did u think of it? I'd knew I love it. I was gonna blind buy it but buying Sucker Punch (my first blu ray) set me back from buying something new for a few weeks. I couldn't wait so I ended up watching it online. Sometimes it was hard following all of the assasains but the movie was very well done and somewhat disturbing at times. The ronin was my favorite character; I remember him from Scott Adkins' Ninja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Takuma Posted July 11, 2011 Member Share Posted July 11, 2011 JP Cut vs. Int. Cut http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=212290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member daisho2004 Posted July 11, 2011 Member Share Posted July 11, 2011 This is What really pisses me off when a movie is released out on BR they should have both versions of the film on there! Let us decide what version we want to watch! Fucking DVD Companies!!!!! Off with there Heads! I'll be the Shoguns Executioner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Lionclaw Posted July 11, 2011 Member Share Posted July 11, 2011 Huge Penis? Lol, Thats so weird. It sounds interesting but I think I could do without the japanese version this time even though I prefer my movies uncut normally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Karlos Posted July 11, 2011 Author Moderator Share Posted July 11, 2011 Wow, that's....very different in parts! So all the talk of the cuts being essentially one 20 minute scene were clearly false. I can see why Miike would opt to cut some of it and, like Lionclaw, I think I'll stick to the international version. The film works better for me without the more extreme Miike moments i.e bend over, Grandpa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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