Guest sevenhooks Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Roger Moore (notice no one else mentioned him) I listed him as my favorite as a matter of fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Not much love for Dalton. If he had made more films would he be better appreciated? He's technically the best actor to have played the part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sevenhooks Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 If he had made better films would he be better appreciated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest limubai2000 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I don't think so because the films themselves focused on straight violence, granted there is a reason LtK is like that. I cannot even remember any memorable scene from either of the Dalton films while I can remember almost shot for shot the opening sequence to View To A Kill. Mostly from Dalton I just remember the city hall sequence with the fire and Bond on the ladder fire truck, and I think I remember that because it was rather melodramatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sevenhooks Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Mostly from Dalton I just remember the city hall sequence with the fire and Bond on the ladder fire truck, Wasn't that Moore in View To a Kill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest limubai2000 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 See your right, I can't even think of ANY of Dalton's action scenes!!! Clearly Dalton and his films are not nearly the caliber of the other Bonds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rebelliousreign1 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I don't think 'The Living Daylights' or 'Licence To Kill' are first raters, but I quite like watching them. Dalton is terrific in LTK but I find him a bit stilted in The Living Daylights- it gives him one-liners that I don't think he pulled off. At all. But, they are a lot better than 'The Man With The Golden Gun' (imo, one of the worst themes ever for the series, though a lot here like it) or 'Moonraker', joke laden follies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sammofan Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I like Dalton! For a long time he was my fave but I think the reason why I rated him was because I hated A View to A Kill so much (worst Bond film ever imo) Other Bond films I don't like are Tomorrow Never Dies, The World is Not Enough, OHMSS (Lazenby is awful imo) and Live and Let Die. All the others are ok with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Dalton-haters must die! :evil I think he's the most misjudged Bond and I find it amazing that Daniel Craig (whom I thought did a very good job) is being praised for something Dalton started 20 years ago and got no respect for. Limubai criticizing his films without even knowing what they are proves my point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest limubai2000 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I saw both Dalton films in the theater, on VHS, and probably 1 or 2 times on HBO. I don't remember them, hence I did not like them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest moviegyrl Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 You're so right about Craig following in Dalton's footsteps! I was listening to the Premiere Magazine radio show last weekend, and this was a point of discussion. Dalton was the first "Bond" to enter the dark territory of the Fleming character. He strove to restore the character's edge, i.e., the scene in TLD where "Bond" first tries to kill "Gen. Pushkin" was particularly disturbing (and tasteless, IMO) and Bond having quit British Intelligence to exact a personal vendetta in LtK. Perhaps the serious tone that Dalton set is the reason why he was so poor at delivering the one-liners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sevenhooks Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Dalton-haters must die! :evil I think he's the most misjudged Bond and I find it amazing that Daniel Craig (whom I thought did a very good job) is being praised for something Dalton started 20 years ago and got no respect for. Limubai criticizing his films without even knowing what they are proves my point! Au contraire. I think it actually proves just how dull and ultimately forgettable Dalton's FILMS were. Therein lies the key difference. Do NOT fail to make the distinction here about what it is I'm actually saying. Dalton - like Pierce - was a fine Bond IMO. It was the FILMS themselves that had problems. Two different things altogether. And the "most misjudged Bond" award clearly goes to Lazenby IMO as well. He had it the toughest by far. Being the first actor to replace Connery in the role, and as a result, he was forever stigmitized by it. Having ZERO acting experience (the press was ready to eat him for breakfast from Day 1). Having an actress of such world class calibre as Diana Rigg as your co-star?? Just a wee bit intimidating, no? Not to mention having to cry at the end of the film??! Come on, we all know that Bond never, ever shows emotion, let alone (shudder) fall in love!! And nevertheless, OHMSS went on to become regarded by many (if not most) fans as THE best film in the series. No small feat, Mr. Never-acted-before-in-my-life-Lazenby!! Oh, and Craig was great too. Casino Royale = easily the best Bond film in YEARS. What were we talking about, again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BKarza Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Daulton had a strike going against him when he came on board. That was the time AIDS was blowing up and they wanted to take the womanizing aspect off of him as a result. TLD is just not interesting. To tell the truth, it's the only one that I have not gotten all the way through. Dull. I love LtK. It's less a "Bond" movie and more of an action/revenge ride. The premise(Felix), sets him up to do something different with the character. It works in spades. I think of it as a Bond movie with an * next to it. CR didn't do anything for me. It was long, not deep. I'm adjusting to DC(his look). I understand that this is the "first one" in many ways, so on many levels, it as to be restrained. That's why this felt so eh. They can't really do too much because it's the first and they need to develop him over the course of the new series. The foot chase was cool but the rest didn't do much for me. It was nice to see a return to action that is not done to show off masturbatory cgi. Didn't find CR interesting but I very much look forward to the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 I saw both Dalton films in the theater, on VHS, and probably 1 or 2 times on HBO. I don't remember them, hence I did not like them at all. That's odd logic. There are plenty shite films I can remember. Forgetting a film doesn't make it bad, especially if it's been a long time since you saw it. Perhaps with the Casino Royale reboot, it's time for a revisit? He strove to restore the character's edge, i.e., the scene in TLD where "Bond" first tries to kill "Gen. Pushkin" was particularly disturbing (and tasteless, IMO) You mean the assassination in the theatre? Perhaps the serious tone that Dalton set is the reason why he was so poor at delivering the one-liners. He was forced to against his will. By the time of Licence to Kill Dalton had persuaded the producers to give MOST OF his one-liners to other cast members. He saw Bond as an assassin not a smirking millionaire playboy -- and I agree. And the "most misjudged Bond" award clearly goes to Lazenby IMO as well. Yeah, poor bugger. Mind you, by arrogantly quitting the series after one go, he brought a lot of the flak on himself. I think he did a fine job in OHMSS, and the film is better than the next half-dozen that followed. Daulton had a strike going against him when he came on board. That was the time AIDS was blowing up and they wanted to take the womanizing aspect off of him as a result. In Casino Royale Bond only sleeps with two women -- the SAME number as Dalton in The Living Daylights. Besides who wants to see that much nookie when it's action and intrigue we buy tickets for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest limubai2000 Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 That's odd logic. There are plenty shite films I can remember. Forgetting a film doesn't make it bad, especially if it's been a long time since you saw it. Perhaps with the Casino Royale reboot, it's time for a revisit? For me it does, I always remember some really good part or most of the film if I liked it at all. I know you are on your Dalton crusade but give me more credit than that. As for a revisit, nope. Got to many things I haven't seen to watch yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest moviegyrl Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 You mean the assassination in the theatre? No, the hotel room scene in which they planned the fake assassination. The assault to Pushkin's mistress was dark (and distasteful). As well, the angry tone by Dalton conveyed a cold (and vulnerable) side to Bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Yeah, I liked that scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iron Boat Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 My favorite is a "View To a Kill" and "Tomorrow Never Dies" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest moviegyrl Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Thanks, Iron Boat! I have to tell ya that those two films rate on my "worst" list, however (barring the Duran Duran tune and Michelle Yeoh's performance, respectively). May I ask what you liked about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kungfusamurai Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Getting back to Casino Royale and Daniel Craig. I said that my impression of DC was that he was rather diva-esque and didn't have much chemistry with the ladies, so I think he might be gay. Well, check it out: Craig Wants Gay Bond Scene I don't know of any hetero male star who would be FOR a gay scene. He could be bi, but my bets are on gay all the way. Sorry ladies... KFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest limubai2000 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Gay scene? Won't happen, interesting idea but simply won't happen. I saw Casino again last weekend during a vicious power outage in my neighborhood and I find myself liking it more after the 2nd viewing. I think it's a great film. I don't think he's gay, metro-sexual maybe, but I doubt he is gay. But I've been wrong before and will be again, I just hope this aint the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 No straight guy volunteers for a gay scene. And hopefully the producers will have more sense. Bond is a @#%$-magnet and that's all there is to it. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chinatown Kid Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Bond Gay? No way man, that's like saying John Wayne or Chuck Norris was light in the loafers. :lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markgway Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 "Listen up, Pilgrim. Get back on your horse before I bum ya! :smokin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chinatown Kid Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 :rollin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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