Is every Chang Cheh movie available through celestial IVL?

[Sandpalm79]

I have a newfound urge to possibly attempt to get every Chang Cheh movie. I have focused mainly on the Venoms but would like to possibly try to get his complete filmography. Are they all available through celestial? and does anyone on this board have anywhere close to all of them? Also what does his body of work seem like when you have over 50 of his films? would like to get an insight into what the overall view is like after seeing the majority?

Also found this cool lil site and looks like it has a pretty complete list of his films..

http://www.beijingvideo.com/bjv/d2.html

[Sandpalm79]

Pretty Complete list?

Chang Cheh

(Chang Yi-Yang)

* Butterfly Chalice

* 4 Riders

* Crippled Avengers

* Weird Man

* King Eagle

* Na Cha the Great

* Heroes 2

* Death Ring

* Generation Gap

* Magnificent Trio

* Invincible Shaolin

* Chinatown Kid

* Magnificent Ruffians

* 5 Element Ninjas

* Heaven and Hell Gate

* Brave Archer 1 - 4

* The Daredevils

* Shaolin Rescuers

* Boxer from Shantung

* Ode to Gallantry

* Legend of the Fox

* Shanghai 13

* Men from the Monastery

* 9 Demons

* Masked Avengers

* Shaolin Martial Arts

* Rebel Intruders

* House of Traps

* All Men are Brothers

* Blood Brothers

* 7 Man Army

* New Shaolin Boxers

* Bloody Escape

* Across the River

* Have Sword, Will Travel

* Kid with the Golden Arm

* Flag of Iron

* Delightful Forest

* Man of Iron

* Dancing Warrior

* 5 Shaolin Masters

* Shaolin Avengers

* Life's Gamble

* Invincible Fist

* Trilogy of Swordsmanship

* Police Force

* Iron Bodyguard

* Marco Polo

* Bloody Avengers

* Great Shanghai 1937

* 10 Tigers of Kwantung

* Disciples of Shaolin

* Fantastic Magic Baby

* Tiger Boy

* Friends

* Magnificent Wanderers

* Savage 5

* Naval Commandos

* Golden Swallow

* Anonymous Heroes

* 5 Deadly Venoms

* Singing Killer

* Triple Irons

* The Heroic Ones

* Angry Guest

* Flying Dagger

* One-Armed Swordsman

* Deadly Duo

* Vengeance

* Wandering Swordsman

* Water Margin

* Invincible Kung Fu Brothers

* Shaolin Temple

* The Pirate

* Duel of the Iron Fists

* 2 Champions of Shaolin

* Duel of Fists

* Death Ring

* Slaughter In Xian

* Singing Killer

* Young People

* Streetgangs From Hong Kong

* Mad Boy

* Singing Thief

* Dead End

* The Assassin

* Trail of the Broken Blade

* Sword Stained with Royal Blood

* Return of the One Armed Swordsman

[bratty]

most of those were released on DVD by IVL, yes

[teako170]

Have over 80 CC films. There are indeed some not released by Celestial as they're not part of the Shaw library (like his later films) and some early works like Tiger Boy. Overall, CC made some great films mixed with some average ones as well as some clunkers. Still my favorite though.

If you want a fairly complete list try HKCM or HKMDB. My files are on another computer, otherwise I would post all his films, including the aliases, in chronological order.

[Fang Shih-yu]

Yes, the majority of Chang Cheh's Shaw movies have been released by Celestial through IVL on DVD and VCD. Some of the IVLs are "out-of-print", but there are US counterparts for a selection of titles that are currently still available (like Heaven and Hell, put out by Image); otherwise, expect getting all the IVL versions to take a lot of money (and time)! The Bloody Escape is an early work from director Sun Chung; Cheh was brought in to offer some guidance on the film. (It shows in the usage of "zoom shots"!) I've only over three dozen of these (so far), spanning from The Magnificent Trio to Five Element Ninjas!

[Chemical Lemon]

Below are the 80 movies Chang Cheh directed at SB. Some of these were co-directed, and a few he may have just thrown his name on the project to help the director get the go ahead. But these are the 80 he was credited with at SB. All were released by Celestial/IVL except Tiger Boy.

In the list you linked to the following movies were made outside of SB after (or around) the time Chang Cheh left SB. Some of these have been released on gray market dvds, none that I know of have good quality dvds.

Death Ring

Shanghai 13

9 Demons

Across the River

Dancing Warrior

Great Shanghai 1937

Slaughter in Xian

Mad Boy (this may be an alternate title, I'm not sure what this one is)

As Fang Shih-yu said, "The Bloody Escape" was Sun Chung, and isn't in my list. I believe the rest of the movies in that list that are missing from mine are alternate names (I think I've consistently used the HK names in my list, but it's been awhile since I made the list, and I may have used alternate titles in some cases). There are a couple other movies he directed after leaving SB like "Attack of the Joyful Goddess" and "Hidden Hero", I'm not sure on all of them. I also read somewhere that CC directed a movie in Taiwan before coming to SB, not sure if this still exists (or if it's true).

NO YEAR -DVD DATE- MOVIE NAME

-- ---- ---------- -------------------------------------

01 1963 07/05/2007 Butterfly Chalice, The

02 1966 ---------- Tiger Boy

03 1966 04/10/2003 Magnificent Trio, The

04 1967 07/10/2003 Trail Of The Broken Blade, The

05 1967 08/05/2004 One-Armed Swordsman

06 1967 12/30/2004 Assassin, The

07 1968 07/08/2004 Golden Swallow

08 1968 11/03/2005 Flying Dagger, The

09 1968 08/05/2004 Return Of The One-Armed Swordsman

10 1969 08/05/2004 Singing Thief, The

11 1969 11/03/2005 Wandering Swordsman, The

12 1969 03/31/2005 Invincible Fist, The

13 1969 05/12/2005 Dead End

14 1969 06/26/2003 Have Sword Will Travel

15 1970 08/01/2003 Vengeance

16 1970 12/05/2002 Heroic Ones, The

17 1970 01/13/2005 King Eagle

18 1970 01/13/2005 Singing Killer, The

19 1971 08/05/2004 New One-Armed Swordsman, The

20 1971 09/24/2004 Deadly Duo, The

21 1971 03/27/2003 Duel Of Fist

22 1971 12/19/2002 Anonymous Heroes, The

23 1971 09/22/2005 Duel, The

24 1972 03/09/2006 Man Of Iron

25 1972 12/18/2003 Young People

26 1972 11/23/2006 Trilogy Of Swordsmanship

27 1972 02/01/2007 Four Riders

28 1972 12/18/2003 Boxer From Shantung, The

29 1972 10/02/2003 Water Margin, The

30 1972 09/22/2005 Angry Guest, The

31 1972 08/23/2007 Delightful Forest, The

32 1973 10/18/2007 Pirate, The

33 1973 03/31/2005 Friends

34 1973 10/16/2003 All Men Are Brothers

35 1973 10/16/2003 Police Force

36 1973 03/18/2004 Generation Gap, The

37 1973 01/23/2003 Blood Brothers

38 1973 02/13/2003 Heroes Two

39 1973 06/26/2003 Delinquent, The

40 1973 03/27/2003 Iron Bodyguard

41 1974 03/27/2003 Na Cha The Great

42 1974 09/28/2006 Savage Five, The

43 1974 06/08/2006 Shaolin Martial Arts

44 1974 01/15/2004 Five Shaolin Masters

45 1974 04/05/2007 Men From The Monastery

46 1975 02/15/2007 Disciples of Shaolin

47 1975 11/17/2005 Fantastic Magic Baby, The

48 1975 02/17/2005 Boxer Rebellion

49 1975 09/08/2005 Marco Polo

50 1976 11/17/2005 7-Man Army

51 1976 11/04/2004 Shaolin Avengers, The

52 1976 12/22/2005 Magnificent Wanderers

53 1976 04/13/2006 New Shaolin Boxers, The

54 1976 03/13/2003 Shaolin Temple

55 1977 02/19/2004 Chinatown Kid

56 1977 02/23/2006 Naval Commandos, The

57 1977 12/18/2003 Invincible Shaolin

58 1977 11/04/2004 Brave Archer, The

59 1978 10/19/2004 Crippled Avengers

60 1978 11/18/2004 Brave Archer Part 2, The

61 1978 12/18/2003 Five Venoms, The

62 1978 09/18/2003 Heaven And Hell

63 1978 08/23/2007 Life Gamble

64 1979 10/18/2007 Shaolin Rescuers

65 1979 08/23/2007 Magnificent Ruffians, The

66 1979 08/09/2007 Kid With The Golden Arm, The

67 1979 03/08/2007 Daredevils, The

68 1980 12/01/2005 Ten Tigers Of Kwang Tung

69 1980 07/27/2006 Flag Of Iron, The

70 1980 09/28/2006 Rebel Intruders, The

71 1980 11/06/2003 Two Champions Of Shaolin

72 1980 07/07/2005 Legend Of The Fox

73 1981 12/06/2004 Brave Archer Part 3, The

74 1981 12/06/2004 Sword Stained With Royal Blood, The

75 1981 05/24/2007 Masked Avengers

76 1981 08/23/2007 House Of Traps

77 1982 10/18/2007 Five Element Ninja

78 1982 07/06/2006 Weird Man, The

79 1982 08/04/2005 Ode To Gallantry

80 1982 06/23/2005 Brave Archer And His Mate

[Chemical Lemon]

Also, the year column in that list are the years that celestial gave to the movies. In many cases the date of HK release is different, and the logic to what year they assigned to movies is not clear. They are often off by a year or 2, but not always. So the order of the list isn't necessarily the order the movies were shot or released.

[teako170]

Nice post CL.

Mad Boy (this may be an alternate title, I'm not sure what this one is)

This is an alt title for The New Shaolin Boxers.

[fiol]

Shanghai 13

i ve the HK dvd of this one.. i loved the movie.. great MA scenes in this flick!

[Chemical Lemon]

Hey fiol, I didn't know S.13 had a HK dvd. Do you know if this uses the same source as the Ocean Shores version? full screen - pan and scan?

Thanks for the info, I'm not a huge fan of his post-sb stuff, but S.13 is definitely my favorite of the bunch. Would love to see this widescreen.

[fiol]

Hey fiol, I didn't know S.13 had a HK dvd. Do you know if this uses the same source as the Ocean Shores version? full screen - pan and scan?

Thanks for the info, I'm not a huge fan of his post-sb stuff, but S.13 is definitely my favorite of the bunch. Would love to see this widescreen.

distribuited by Garry's Trading Co. and it s 4:3 , sometimes you can t read the subtitles cause they are cut on both side..anyway i don't know how the OS is but this one is quite crappy..

[Bronx Rican]

I now regret not picking up lesser-known (to me) Venoms films when I had the chance; the DVD's I do own are like comfort food, and I decided I want all of them, even the clunkers. I know it'll take some doing.

[Chemical Lemon]

distribuited by Garry's Trading Co. and it s 4:3 , sometimes you can t read the subtitles cause they are cut on both side..anyway i don't know how the OS is but this one is quite crappy..

that's too bad, the OS version is crappy also.

[Blood Sword]

03 1966 04/10/2003 Magnificent Trio, The

04 1967 07/10/2003 Trail Of The Broken Blade, The

05 1967 08/05/2004 One-Armed Swordsman

08 1968 11/03/2005 Flying Dagger, The

09 1968 08/05/2004 Return Of The One-Armed Swordsman

11 1969 11/03/2005 Wandering Swordsman, The

14 1969 06/26/2003 Have Sword Will Travel

15 1970 08/01/2003 Vengeance

16 1970 12/05/2002 Heroic Ones, The

17 1970 01/13/2005 King Eagle

19 1971 08/05/2004 New One-Armed Swordsman, The

20 1971 09/24/2004 Deadly Duo, The

21 1971 03/27/2003 Duel Of Fist

22 1971 12/19/2002 AnonymousHeroes

26 1972 11/23/2006 Trilogy Of Swordsmanship

28 1972 12/18/2003 Boxer From Shantung, The

29 1972 10/02/2003 Water Margin, The

30 1972 09/22/2005 Angry Guest, The

31 1972 08/23/2007 Delightful Forest, The

32 1973 10/18/2007 Pirate, The

33 1973 03/31/2005 Friends

34 1973 10/16/2003 All Men Are Brothers

37 1973 01/23/2003 Blood Brothers

38 1973 02/13/2003 Heroes Two

39 1973 06/26/2003 Delinquent, The

40 1973 03/27/2003 Iron Bodyguard

43 1974 06/08/2006 Shaolin Martial Arts

44 1974 01/15/2004 Five Shaolin Masters

45 1974 04/05/2007 Men From The Monastery

46 1975 02/15/2007 Disciples of Shaolin

48 1975 02/17/2005 Boxer Rebellion

49 1975 09/08/2005 Marco Polo

51 1976 11/04/2004 Shaolin Avengers, The

52 1976 12/22/2005 Magnificent Wanderers

53 1976 04/13/2006 New Shaolin Boxers, The

54 1976 03/13/2003 Shaolin Temple

57 1977 12/18/2003 Invincible Shaolin

58 1977 11/04/2004 Brave Archer, The

59 1978 10/19/2004 Crippled Avengers

60 1978 11/18/2004 Brave Archer Part 2, The

61 1978 12/18/2003 Five Venoms, The

62 1978 09/18/2003 Heaven And Hell

63 1978 08/23/2007 Life Gamble

64 1979 10/18/2007 Shaolin Rescuers

65 1979 08/23/2007 Magnificent Ruffians, The

66 1979 08/09/2007 Kid With The Golden Arm, The

68 1980 12/01/2005 Ten Tigers Of Kwang Tung

69 1980 07/27/2006 Flag Of Iron, The

70 1980 09/28/2006 Rebel Intruders, The

71 1980 11/06/2003 Two Champions Of Shaolin

72 1980 07/07/2005 Legend Of The Fox

73 1981 12/06/2004 Brave Archer Part 3, The

74 1981 12/06/2004 Sword Stained With Royal Blood, The

75 1981 05/24/2007 Masked Avengers

76 1981 08/23/2007 House Of Traps

77 1982 10/18/2007 Five Element Ninja

79 1982 08/04/2005 Ode To Gallantry

80 1982 06/23/2005 Brave Archer And His Mate

Those I have as originals and pick up chinatown kid and killer army/rebel intruders when they are released in USA.Chinatown Kid only is proper version of course...

[Sandpalm79]

I now regret not picking up lesser-known (to me) Venoms films when I had the chance; the DVD's I do own are like comfort food, and I decided I want all of them, even the clunkers. I know it'll take some doing.

What do you mean by "when you had the chance" cant you still get all the ivls basically through yesasia.com and dddhouse etc?

[Bronx Rican]

What do you mean by "when you had the chance" cant you still get all the ivls basically through yesasia.com and dddhouse etc?

My chance mostly refers to the shops in NYC Chinatown, but I was under the impression the out-of-print IVLs are more difficult to locate and are more expensive. I am not a fan of mail ordering, but Yesasia looks like it'll do in a pinch, so thanks. Still a big factor is my constant broke-ness, but my chances are better now.